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Requesting info for a friend from Alabama...has a daughter in 11th grade, a good student (no details) with an interest in psych and creative writing. Wants to remain in the South..say from Maryland to Texas...small or large schools ok. Any suggestions ? Thanks.

By Alexandre (Alexandre) on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 02:03 pm: Edit

University of Minnesota-Minneapolis...hehe, just kidding. Here's a list of 20 southern/Western universities and colleges. They all have solid psych departments.

Davidson College
Duke University
Emory University
Furman University
Johns Hopkins University
Occidental College
Pomona College
Reed College
Rice University
Stanford University
Vanderbilt University
Trinity University
University of California-Berkeley
University of California-Los Angeles
University of California-San Diego
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
University of Texas-Austin
University of Virginia
Wake Forest University

Too bad she wants to stay in the south. Limiting oneself to such an insignificant criteria does not usually serve one well.

By Oldman (Oldman) on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 02:25 pm: Edit

Agreed but this is not an uncommon sentiment around here. Fear of cold. Any thoughts re: creative writing.....even out of the south....thanks.

By Carolyn (Carolyn) on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 02:31 pm: Edit

Some schools with strong creative writing programs she might want to check out:

Washington College in Maryland

Hollins in Virginia

Eckerd in Florida

Johns Hopkins in Maryland

Agnes Scott in Atlanta

Florida State

The following schools have very good English programs with creative writing components, as well as good psychology programs:

Millsaps in Missippi, University of Missippi, Davidson College, University of Richmond, Vanderbilt, Duke, Southwestern U (Texas), Trinity U (Texas), Rice (Texas), St. Mary's College of MAryland (public school with private school atmosphere), Wofford College (SC), University of South Carolina, the College of Charleston.

By Carolyn (Carolyn) on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 02:35 pm: Edit

And for creative writing specifically, she should also check out:

Kenyon in Ohio

The University of Redlands (Calif so not so cold)

University of Oregon (again not so cold)

the College of Sante Fe in New Mexico

OBerlin

Emerson in Boston

Knox in Illinois

Hamilton in NY

Bennintgton in Vermont

Beloit in Wisc.

Bard in NY

Sarah Lawrence in NY

Wheaton in MAss.

University of Iowa

By Alexandre (Alexandre) on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 02:44 pm: Edit

Carolyn pretty much spells it out. I would add Michigan-Ann Arbor, Cornell and Columbia. All have excellent creative writing programs.

By Garland (Garland) on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 03:14 pm: Edit

True, but she asked for schools in the south specifically.

By Oldman (Oldman) on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 03:24 pm: Edit

Thanks for the recs!

By Cangel (Cangel) on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 03:26 pm: Edit

What happened to Sewanee? Home of the Tennessee Williams papers???

By Alexandre (Alexandre) on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 04:27 pm: Edit

It is awesome too. University of the South. Great little LAC. I cannot believe I left it out. Certainly very solid in English, Writing and Psych.

By Newnudad (Newnudad) on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 04:44 pm: Edit

Where did John Grisham, the Best Southern Writer of This Generation go? IMO, he set the standard, so why not follow?

ps: I actually think he's way better than Faulkner -I know this is heresy down there, but I don't care - it's only my opinion, and I'm a Yankee!

By Alongfortheride (Alongfortheride) on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 05:16 pm: Edit

John Grisham did undergrad at Mississippi State and law at Ole Miss.

By Binx (Binx) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 03:31 am: Edit

Lewis Grizzard went to UGA. Good journalism program; I have no clue as to creative writing, though.

By Apacolypse (Apacolypse) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 10:41 am: Edit

Definitely check out UVA. Eventhough I frown upon the US News rankings, the last time they ranked Creative Writing Programs, UVA was #4. Plus, this year 3 UVA grads garnered top honors. Frank Wright ('80) won the Pulitzer Prize for Poetry for "Walking to Martha's Vineyard." Edward P. Jones ('81) won the Pulitzer for Fiction for "The Known World." (Jones also won a MacArthur "genius" Award a couple weeks ago.) Lastly, Lisa Williams ('96) won a 2004 Rome Prize Fellowship in literature to study poetry in Italy. These alums went to the grad program, and a couple of years ago, UVA opened an undergrad program taught by the same professors as the grad program - professors like Anne Beattie, Gregory Orr as well as Pulitzer prize winners like Charles Wright and Rita Dove. Dove is also a 2-time U.S. Poet Laureate.

Regarding William Faulker, he was UVA's first writer-in-residence, and Virginia has one of the largest collections of his books, manuscripts, and personal items because he donated many of this work, etc. to UVA when he died. In fact, is was Faulkner who coined the phrase "Public Ivy." That is how he described The University of Virginia at an academic conference before deciding to be a professor there.

Regarding John Grisham, he lives in Charlottesville, VA and often does things at The University of Virginia.

Also, UVA has a good Psychology program.

By Dg5052 (Dg5052) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 07:00 am: Edit

Lewis Grizzard--haven't seen that name in a while. He was truly a gem; sometimes I hated his newspaper columns, but I couldn't wait to read them every day.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution has periodically tried to get a columnist to take his niche, but it's impossible. There was only one Lewis.

By Oldman (Oldman) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:44 am: Edit

Thanks for the input.

By Hoo_29 (Hoo_29) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 01:08 pm: Edit

FYI- UVA is pretty cold in the winter. My friend goes there and it snows throughout the winter because it is in the mountains. I think it is really close to a ski resort, also.

And definetely check out UGA, Furman, UNC-CH, Wake Forest, Vandy, Duke, College of William and Mary.

By Apacolypse (Apacolypse) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 01:43 pm: Edit

What? UVA isn't that cold. It's near the mountains but not in the mountains. Besides, there isn't that much of a difference in temperature between UVA, W&M, Vanderbilt & Duke. It's not like we're comparing VA with NY. It really depends on the year, I remember very mild winters at UVA and colder ones. As you can see here, the temperatures from Maryland to northern Georgia aren't drastically different ranging from 30 to 50 degrees from January to March. Visiting my parents in Georgia for Xmas now that I'm coming from NY, I definitely feel the difference.

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