| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 04:41 pm: Edit |
Babson,BU,George Washington University,University of Michigan, Wake Forest or UNC Chapel Hill
I'm also guessing University of Michigan is by far the best but there is no guaranteed admission to the business program.
Please post your opinions/comments on the remaining schools
Does Babson have a good reputation with companies?
| By Vulcano (Vulcano) on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 06:04 pm: Edit |
How many times do you have to ask the exact same question?
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 06:21 pm: Edit |
sorry wrong post my bad
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 06:35 pm: Edit |
mich unc babson bu wake gwu
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 06:36 pm: Edit |
enarang it looks like were both interested in the same school where are u from? post bak if u wanna talk we can exchange Email addys
| By Alan5 (Alan5) on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 09:25 pm: Edit |
You may want to add Northeastern and Bentley to your list. NEU has an excellent business school (ranked in the top twenty in international business) and an amazing co-op program with Fortune 500 Companies (national and international). Bentley has its own simulated trading floor and a nice campus. NEU is in Boston and Bentley is in Waltham, MA.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 10:01 pm: Edit |
yeah but they arent as good as babson and the rest on his/her list
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 10:05 pm: Edit |
umich by a huge gap
unc
huge gap again
wake
bu/babson/gw all about equal
..stop making sensless posts asking to rank schools
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 10:09 pm: Edit |
babson is def better then wake
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 10:29 pm: Edit |
um no way
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 10:55 pm: Edit |
doesnt mean much but wake ranks 11 spots ahead of babson
and babson would not even be ranked #32 overall for business if not for their #1 Entrepreneurship
ranking ...their other programs are nothign special
| By Alan5 (Alan5) on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 07:34 am: Edit |
I would chose Northeastern over Babson for international Business but not for Entreprenuership. NEU has a great co-op program and is a school on the rise. But I would take Michigan over all the schools on his list.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 03:18 pm: Edit |
noo babson is so muich betteer
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 05:39 pm: Edit |
and you are basing this on what?
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 09:43 pm: Edit |
To all those proposing Northeastern University my brother is recently going to graduate from Northeastern this summer. Unfortunately, his experience was not that great. He applied for the business school but didn't get in. Therefore he switched majors and decided to do economics. However, the switching of majors caused him to lose some credits because they were not transferrable.
I would like to note my brother went to the most prestigious school in the area. It is small and the graduating class was only 50 kids where over 15 got into ivy league schools. This could be a reason because he went from such a small high school to such a large university
For all those discrediting Babson keep an eye out as this school is on a massive rise. Acceptance rate dropped over 10 % in one year. The current acceptance percentage is 36%. In that same year overall applications were up 26% and average SAT scores jumped over 50 points. This increasingly high selectivity along with a fine reputation and number one entrepreneurship program has this school on its way to the elite category
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 09:47 pm: Edit |
I'd say that within the next five years Babson will easily surpass a whole bunch of schools including Wake and jump into that elite category.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 12:14 am: Edit |
what the average sat for wake post ur sn if u wanna chat
| By Ronjeremy (Ronjeremy) on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 01:50 am: Edit |
For y'all that keep pumping up Babson due to its #1 entrepeneurship ranking, this is completely crazy. One does not learn entrepeneurial skills in an academic setting. These are essential inborn traits: are you an aggresive risk taker?
If you truly want to run your own biz at an early age, I would suggest picking up a biz degree at a state university, just to get some basic accounting and mgmt. theory. Then take the difference you saved by not going to Babson, and presto, you have $40k+ capital for your startup venture. Now just convince mom and dad of that and you're set.
| By Alan5 (Alan5) on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 07:32 am: Edit |
"For all those discrediting Babson keep an eye out as this school is on a massive rise. Acceptance rate dropped over 10 % in one year. The current acceptance percentage is 36%. In that same year overall applications were up 26% and average SAT scores jumped over 50 points."
The same thing happened at Northeastern. This year, NEU got 25,000 applicants for 2800 spots and the average SAT/GPA of applicants applying was 1280/3.8. compared to 1200/3.4 from the year before. Northeastern is on a major rise too and will soon surpass many schools that are ranked higher. Plus NEU has the number one co-op progam in the the country. Over 2500 companies recruit on campus. NEU's business school is ranked in the top twenty for international business and in the top 30 for entreprenuership. Babson is a great school but Northeastern is still an excellent choice.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 12:00 pm: Edit |
i still think babson is better for business the degree carrys more prestige then one from northeastern
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 12:28 pm: Edit |
yo enarang i was also wondering if babson has a good rep with companies i also want to be an investment banker for goldman or like lazard or blackstone you think if i call up one of them and ask if they recruit heavily from babson theyll give a straight answer?
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 12:35 pm: Edit |
hollaratme here is a gerneral admission comparrison between wake and babson based on last years admissions stats
Babson
U.S. News ranking: Unranked Specialty School–Business
Business program rank: 32
Overall acceptance rate: 48%
Verbal: 550 – 630
Math: 600 – 690
Students in top 10% of HS class: 50%
Total applicants: 2,402
Total acceptances: 1,153
Wake Forest
U.S. News ranking: National Universities–Doctoral, 28
Business program rank: 21
Overall acceptance rate: 41%
SAT I - Verbal Range (25-75%): 610-690
SAT I - Math Range (25-75%): 630-700
Top 10 percent of high school class: 62%
Top 25 percent of high school class: 91%
Total applicants: 5,995
Total acceptances: 2,454
ill throw in northeastern as well since it seems to be a focal point of discussion:
Northeastern
U.S. News ranking: National Universities–Doctoral, third tier
Business program rank: 75
Overall acceptance rate: 61%
SAT I - Verbal Range (25-75%): 550-640
SAT I - Math Range (25-75%): 570-660
Top 10 percent of high school class: 21%
Top 25 percent of high school class: 57%
Total applicants: 17,037
Total acceptances: 10,454
Average high school GPA: 3.2
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 12:45 pm: Edit |
its obvious ne is the worse one
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 07:02 pm: Edit |
RonJeremy just learn exactly how to be a successful entrepreneur and then take that knowledge and presto!
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 11:21 am: Edit |
it seems like there is a large amount of people against babson...
| By Ronjeremy (Ronjeremy) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 11:45 am: Edit |
I should clarify that I have nothing against Babson in particular. It is great at what it does -- a specialty business school. I just don't think that is necessarily the best environment for an undergraduate education, particularly when this person is considering excellent all-around options like Mich, Wake and UNC.
And we can agree to disagree on the value of the entrepeneurship program. Not that I have vast personal experience in the matter, but I come from a family of small biz owners and have spent several years in Silicon Valley. From what I have seen, successful entrepeneurs are born, not made. Sure, having successful background knowledge to put together a biz plan and run the books is helpful. But beyond that, success hinges more on traits such as moxy, creativity, and communications skills than on textbook training.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 01:00 pm: Edit |
an entrepeneurship program teaches you how to manage your company, how to expand it, how to make decision. there are many things that can be taught
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 02:46 pm: Edit |
RonJeremy we come from very similar backgrounds except I'm on the east coast. My family has a growing and establshed business that was started by a family member. You are very accurate in your assessment of the other full-rounded undergraduate programs. You make a valid point in your statement that the specialty business school may not be the best environment for an undergrad education. You would be correct in saying that not many people know what they want to do before they enter college. There is that few number that do. This is where specialty schools provide benefits that may not be available at large and more diverse universities To some people who know exactly what they want to do and know they want that business path Babson is a terrific choice.
It just so happens that I'm on of those people who is looking for that slightly smaller school that provides a great and highly respected education in the business field. Babson fits that description perfectly. Remember that Babson is a school that DOES NOT appeal to everyone. It is a school that is highly specialized and concentrates on career goals. If a person is looking to explore different careers and find that interest I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND that they go to Babson. This is because people at Babson already know they want business. I personally RonJeremy would not go to Babson if I didn't know what I wanted to do, if I wanted to explore different fields or I wasn't 100% sure about majoring in business. Fortunately I know what I want to do, I don't have a great desire to explore different fields and I'm 100% sure I want to do business. To me prestige isn't a factor partly because location is more important and I personally feel I can achieve the same level of success if not greater than any Harvard, Yale or Princeton graduate. Hollaratme I think you made a good point
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 02:53 pm: Edit |
i agree with everything you said, what is the average sat score for babson?
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 02:55 pm: Edit |
Hollaratme I would like to tell you since you have shown interest in Babson as I have that it is getting much harder to get into every single year. For the Class of 2007 overall number of applications increased 26%. Early Decision applications increased 62%. Acceptance Percentage dropped from 48% to 37% and SAT scores increased 50 points. These are the highest overall admission statistics for Babson ever. Each year for the last ten years Babson has become more selective and the future shows no signs of slowing down. I'm gonna be busting my chops until my letter of a hopeful acceptance decision arrives in my hands. Keep workin hard and do the same
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 02:59 pm: Edit |
you said that it increased 50 points so what is it now?
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 04:06 pm: Edit |
Last time I checked its at like 1290 from a 1240 something. Yikes I'm gettin a bit scared but I'm gonna interview and tell them that Babson truly is the college for me in all aspects. It honestly is and I'm gonna try and contact the head tennis coach and perhaps tryout for the varsity team. That might help. Also I'm going to be applying early decision and there is a relatively small connection that I may have. You saw my thread on the individual school board You think I can get in?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 05:04 pm: Edit |
what exactly is you SAT score? and they rec sat2s did u take them and if so what did u get?
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 05:48 pm: Edit |
SAT score is 1280-1320 (Right now I have an 1120 but it will rise as I'm going to prep the ENTIRE summer) Hoping for 720 Verbal and 600 Math. If worst comes to worst I have official documentation of testing problems.
SAT II writing going for 650
SAT II Math IC target is 600-650
SAT II U.S. History is low to mid 600's (600 -650)
I have not taken the SAT II's yet but I will take SAT II's in Writing and U.S. History in June with SAT II Math IC in November of my senior year. I need massive amount of time to prep for the math IC.
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 05:50 pm: Edit |
I realize that other then the SAT's everything else that I have is great
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 06:05 pm: Edit |
yea they only need writting in one math. what do u mean by an official document of testing problems?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 06:08 pm: Edit |
yah i messed up on my sats 560 verbal 640 math ->1200
hardcore studying for june test
sat2s in oct writting math1c and 2c
and possible retake of sat1 in nov
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 06:23 pm: Edit |
The Official Documentation of testing problem is you know when people say "I'm not a good test taker" I have proof that I'm not. It was based on some test that I took from some certified education lady or something. Keep in mind SAT's aren't the only thing factored into admission. As far as I can tell we both have good grades, a very challenging curicculum, good work experience, quite impressive extra curricular activities (clubs, sports etc.), great recommendations from teachers and counselors. I also play a sport that I could potentially play at the college level and I have a musical talent as well. One standardized test in this case I personally believe should be given attention to but they should see that our overall level of achievment clearly outweighs one low SAT score.
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 06:26 pm: Edit |
I know a person who got into Gettysburg College with a 1050 SAT score. Gettysburg's average SAT is in the mid 1200's and he wasn't a minority, a recruited athlete, a legacy, or any other special case. Besides the SAT score he was a hard working person who achieved good grades and everything else besides his SAT score was great. This is the case with us. An example that SAT's don't mean the end of the world
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 07:19 pm: Edit |
true are u a minority by any chance? i heard babson gets on their knees for african americans and hispanics
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 07:23 pm: Edit |
I'm Indian I dunno if that helps because they are all geniuses to begin with
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 07:25 pm: Edit |
oh yeah do you know if babson has good placement in companies like goldman sachs. i want to work for a company before taking controll of the family business
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 07:25 pm: Edit |
yea im indian too
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 09:10 pm: Edit |
More companies come to recruit at Babson then at Harvard. This is true. Most likely you will work in either New York, Boston or Miami. Job placement is great as Babson grads are highly respected for their unique hands-on experience they recieve. I do know that the career center at Babson is great in getting students high paying jobs. Babson is gaining in the rankings and employers have been aware of Babson's unique alumni for quite some time. International reputation is fantastic. If you decide to work internationally you will see that Babson graduates are highly respected. IF you choose to start you own company Babson is the number one school for entrepreneurship. I'm almost certain that high profile companies such as Lehman Bros, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Merril Lynch etc... show up at Babson to recruit.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 09:46 pm: Edit |
nice nice
| By Alan5 (Alan5) on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 07:44 am: Edit |
The stats post for Northeastern are old. The average SAT at NEU is now in the mid 1200s and the acceptance rate is in the 40% range. NEU got over 25,000 applcants this year for 2800 spots in the frosh class. Look for NEU to move up in the rankings this year. By the way, over 2500 companies recruit at NEU (way more than Babson). Most NEU students have jobs offers in their junior year at places like Merril Lynch, Sony, NBC, EMC, Microsoft, Fidelity, etc.
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 11:36 am: Edit |
Babson will easily break the top 20 in the overall business programs within the next few years and pretty soon it will go into the top 10 as its selectivity increases and its programs get more diverse and stronger. It will be similar to Washington University's (St. Louis) rise in the rankings.
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 12:33 pm: Edit |
enarang you are glorifying babson way too much...the assertion that they are going to jump 15 spots in the next few years is overly optimistic and even more far fetched that they will crack the top 10
..babson has not made any significant improvements that would justify such a thing...sure their selectivity and applications have increased but so has every other univeristy in the united states... selectivity and applications increase every single year.. each year is a new record high for the school
..only abnormal, unexpected changes within the school can cause it to fly through the rankings
...increasing selectivity and applications is expected by all means...if a school did not increase annually it would in fact lost ground in the rankings
..babson is actually a dissapointment to me.. if a school is going to dedicate itself strictly to business and nothing else, it should be ranked much higher than sup par 30's when compared to universities with a multitude of focuses
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 12:59 pm: Edit |
the truth is actully opposite of what you are claiming
... babson is showing a NEGATIVE DECLINING trend in the rankings
see for yourself:
2004 US News Ranking
best undergrad business program- 32
unranked speciality school
2002 US News Ranking
best undergrad business program- 30
unranked speciality school
2000 US News Ranking
best undergrad business program- 26
unranked speciality school
oh and since you said "It will be similar to Washington University's (St. Louis) rise in the rankings. "
lets quickly recap wustl's trend throughout the last few years:
2004 US News Ranking
best undergrad business program- 14
national universities-doctoral - 9
2002 US News Ranking
best undergrad business program- 16
national universities-doctoral - 14
200 US News Ranking
best undergrad business program- 16
national universities-doctoral- 17
As you can see, what you have said is untrue.. wustl and babson actually share an inverse relationship
..over the last 4 years wustl has improved and thus progressed in the rankings
..while babson has actually falterd and is on a decline in the rankings over the last 4 years
..and again just to reiterate and relieve others of a senseless rebuttal.. do not come back with a recital of increased admissions statistics at babson for this year in comparison to the last... all schools can claim the same thing because admission selectivity always increases with each new incoming class, it is normal... safetys become match schools and match schools become reaches
..some examples of what constitutes a major change and thus causes a school to rocket through the rankings:
an ongoing $800 million reconstruction project to the schools campus like at northeastern...or something along the lines of mass media attention and an increased quality of professors like at nyu (they stole a bunch of professors from stanford and havard in the past year)
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 03:05 pm: Edit |
why are you against babson. If you are determined to go into business it is ONE of the best schools to go to.
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 08:56 pm: Edit |
I have nothing against babson.. i just felt it was necessary to clear up some of the exagerated assertions that were made as a result of babson trolling by a select few posters.
..babson is a good school for business yeah... to say it is one of the best for business is another exageration because it is not..bottom line: good school.. nothing that makes it one of the best for business aside from entrepreneurship (however take that honor with a grain of salt as most undergrad business programs do not put forth the effort to have a good entreprenurship major... the same can be accomplished under the more common "business management")
the assertion that babson is on an upward swing is simply not true as you can see in my previous posts
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 10:41 pm: Edit |
As long as I get hooked up with a great job after college I'm all set. Babson and many other schools do that for their graduates. Its just a good place to consider as are many other schools that should provide the same success upon graduation.
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 10:56 pm: Edit |
yah u will get a good job if u are willing to put the work in
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 06:04 am: Edit |
that is true of every school
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 02:48 pm: Edit |
i want to be loaded
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 04:57 pm: Edit |
Babson is a great place if you want that Hollaratme.
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 06:19 pm: Edit |
Actually most Babson students share the common goal of becoming richer (as most are already ridiculously wealthy or will be in a few years.)When you hear most students want to take over the family business they aren't talking about the family store. These family businesses are large corporations and businesses started by a family member.
I partly believe Babson is appealing to these groups of students because they can learn entrepreneurship if they want to start their own company or they can take over a family business if their start up gig doesn't work. So either way they are set and if they want to take the risk of starting their own company Babson would be the place to do it while still giving its students a very good business education so they can succesfully manage family businesses
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 06:55 pm: Edit |
do u want to go straight into ur family business or do u want to work for a company first?
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 08:58 pm: Edit |
I actually don't know. My brother is contemplating that same question as we speak. He will be graduating in august. He might try to get a job somewhere else. However, given this economy it might not happen right away. He might join the family business.
My plan is to work for some time after I get my undergraduate degree. Then after getting work experience I might get my master's degree or start my own company. If I don't get a well paying job to start with for some reason I will probably join the family business and it will hopefully give me a great future. If my own company doesn't turn out to be profitable it is another reason to join the family business that is already well established and running. I might also want to work for a large company but getting to that CEO position takes years and in most cases will not happen. In that case I would probably join the family business and just work my way up much faster then I would be able to elsewhere. Babson gives me that background in entrepreneurship and a good business education so hopefully my own company will be successful. If my company is not successful Babson will give me a great education in the business field that will be just what I need to run the family business
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 09:09 pm: Edit |
yah man
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 10:37 pm: Edit |
what other sschools are ur checking out enarang
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 10:39 pm: Edit |
im looking at
cornell hotel school
nyu-stern
georgetown
boston college
tulane
university of rochestor
gwu
bu
babson
rutgers-safety
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 10:41 pm: Edit |
hollaratme,
any specific reason for the cornell hotel school?
they have a brand new undergrad business college that has a promising future and a lot of hype surrounding it
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 10:54 pm: Edit |
AEM is very competetive esp if ur out of state because its in cornell public college.
hotel school is like business school but with food seems like fun
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:33 pm: Edit |
I'm checkin out Babson(Top Choice),BU,George Washington, Bentley(safety), Northeastern (Safety),University of Michigan,and University of Ricmond.
Given my situation Babson would be the best. Hollaratme you saw my stats what do you think?
I probably could go to a better school but there is no need and I want to stay within the Boston and New York area. Babson is equally as good as any other business program in the northeast except UPenn. I believe for what I want to do in the future and given my situation Babson is better then NYU Stern and Boston College by far(most will disagree). Michigan is just too far and too cold for me with no guarantee into their business program until end of sophmore year anyway.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 04:48 am: Edit |
ya michigan if really touch to get into business once ur there u need like a 3.7 to get into business. i talked to babson and their average sat score is a 1280. so i think we gotta raise thoses and well be good.
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 02:07 pm: Edit |
" I believe for what I want to do in the future and given my situation Babson is better then NYU Stern and Boston College by far(most will disagree). "
get real please...first of all you say you want to work for a company after undergrad.. "My plan is to work for some time after I get my undergraduate degree." ...babson is not even comparable to stern or carrol in that respect...well at least not stern...
"I believe for what I want to do in the future and given my situation Babson is better then NYU Stern and Boston College by far"
where does your logic come from? explain that one to me please
" Babson is equally as good as any other business program in the northeast except UPenn"
hmm just off the top of my head.. schools in the northeast that babson can not even be compared with by a person with a sane mind:
carnegie mellon
upenn
nyu stern
cornell aem
schools in the northeast that can at least be used in the same sentence as babson however are still better:
boston college
penn state
schools in the northeast babson can be considered equal to:
boston u
syracuse
u of pitt
...its cool that you are excited about the possibility of attending babson but you really should tone down the trolling because it is causing you to make illogical, fictitous statements
..babson is a good school but it is not in the same league as schools you are comparing it to
..based on your stats it seems to me that you are subconsciously doing so to make yourself feel better about the higher ranked schools for which your stats would not suffice... i mean you talk like you are choosing babson over umich and stern when in reality you do not have the stats to even get into umich or stern
..you can say what you want to hollaratme but just keep in mind you are on a public fourm.. some of that highly exaggerated dialect you have going back and forth may be better well suited for a private conversation.
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 02:17 pm: Edit |
oh and by the way if you are looking to major in entrepreneurship.. your best bet is to go to your own state school
..it is a complete waste of money to attend a 40k a year school if you plan on being your own boss...ie: do not have to go on job interviews thus where your degree from does not really matter
..if you are going to dish out 40k a year you might as well major in business management this way you can at least open other options aside from a self operated business... in which case rendering babson's "speciality" pointless
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 02:45 pm: Edit |
"you can say what you want to hollaratme but just keep in mind you are on a public fourm.. some of that highly exaggerated dialect you have going back and forth may be better well suited for a private conversation. "
what highley exaggerated dialect? Since your first message on this thread you have put down Babson. Enarang and I like the school and were happy that we found a school that matches our needs. As for us having a private conversation how is that your business everything that we talked about on this thread goes on many others.
| By Alan5 (Alan5) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 04:34 pm: Edit |
U.S. News is not the only source for business rankings:
http://www.bschool.com/best_b-schools.html
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 05:09 pm: Edit |
ScubaSteve Lehigh is much lower (excuse me for the spelling if its wrong) please don't make these false statements when you personally are no where near the level of either Hollaratme or myself. You fail to look at that I don't need to go to a state school and I might just go into a business. So therefore you are right in saying where I get my degree doesn't really matter. However, you are wrong in saying that Babson is not a good school. Do I see lehigh on the list of top business schools. (No I missed it cause its not there)If I want to start my company Babson if the best. Please don't argue that statement and when I stated that Babson is better then Stern or BC (That is what I personally believe in context of what I see myself doing). Remember don't try to put down a school based on what people personally believe and also remember that people have different financial and other situations then you do! I hope this will stay in your mind and you will stop offering negative comments about colleges when you don't even go to such a hot one yourself
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 05:12 pm: Edit |
Scubamarineman I believe that Babson is better then BC and Penn State by far. The other schools you mentioned I personally don't believe relate to Babson in any aspect
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 05:36 pm: Edit |
I did state which schools were much better and I'm competent to realize there are a few that are much better such as UPENN and a few others but thats it. I believe that BC and Penn State are on the same level of Babson
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 06:07 pm: Edit |
bc screws over indians like me cz when companies goes there to recruit they want the catholic kids cz its a jesuit school
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 06:31 pm: Edit |
Yeah I visited BC good school but I wasn't big on the campus nor the classic "ultra white conservative look either"
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 07:35 pm: Edit |
you gotta be catholic for it or near that
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 07:39 pm: Edit |
enarang i was llookin at richmond it looks pretty good tooo i think we both have pretty good chances there
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 07:53 pm: Edit |
"I hope this will stay in your mind and you will stop offering negative comments about colleges when you don't even go to such a hot one yourself "
lehigh is ranked # 37th nationally...that makes it a tier 1 university..and is often considered the next notch down from the ivy leagues amongst a few other schools..get your facts straight
..their business college is new thus it has not yet had time to make an impact on the rankings
I applied to many of the top 10 undergrad business schools and was only rejected by sloan (did not apply to wharton)
I am going to lehigh because i'm not strictly studying business..they have an outstanding engineering schools and I will be in their integrated business and engineering program
"This state-of-the-art honors program, which leads to a bachelor of science degree in Integrated Business and Engineering (IBE), is designed to prepare leaders of the corporate world for the 21st century, by providing them with a sound foundation in both management and technology.
The highly selective four-year honors program brings together the resources and faculty of the College of Business and Economics and the P.C. Rossin College of Engineering and Applied Science. Students will be prepared to make decisions related to technology and product and process development in a way that combines technical, financial, marketing and strategic dimensions."
again..get your facts straight... i sincerely think you have yet to make a factually sound statement
..i never said babson wasn't a good school.. it's just not close to being on the same level on the other schools you are comparing it with...you were making posts asking for others to rank undergrad buiness programs just a week ago.. and now suddenly you are a profound expert?
..you tell me not to base things on personal opinion, i dont.. i base them on fact
..you on the other hand are ignorant of the facts and only have personal opinion and misguided bias to work on
| By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 07:57 pm: Edit |
Can someone give me a link to the new undergrad business school at Cornell? I can't find anything about it, all I see is a labor relations school.
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:00 pm: Edit |
Hey ScubaSteve lets stop the negativity how about this u and I both go to great schools for our respective majors. A quick question can a specialty school such as Babson get ranked nationally. If I could get into Babson what would be my odds at a similarly ranked school on the national list
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:01 pm: Edit |
"you personally are no where near the level of either Hollaratme or myself."
thats quite a bold statement and a paradox at that.... learn to start formulating what you say from fact
.. you want to be an entrepreneur? I have news for you entrepreneurs need to have a strong sense of realism and fact or else their wallets get killed
..and to respond to your initial comment
**SELF-EDITED FOR IMMATURITY**
..again learn to use fact... become a sound realist instead of a factually deprived exaggerator if you want to suceed in business
..good luck to you and god speed
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:01 pm: Edit |
scuba that maybe good for you quite frankly im not the engineering type of guy. That DOESNT mean lehigh is better. I know leghigh is good for engineering nothing for business tho and we are strictly looking for business
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:05 pm: Edit |
not sure if a speciality school can be nationally ranked
..cal tech comes to mind since they only offer engineering based programs... however i do know if they ever adopted the title "specialty school"
does babson offer doctorate degree programs? if not it can't be part of the national rankings
| By Ronjeremy (Ronjeremy) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:05 pm: Edit |
Actually, what I think you two (hollar & en) really need is a good liberal arts education, so you may learn to formulate sound, logical arguments.
| By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:07 pm: Edit |
Where can I find out about the new Cornell business college? It is nowhere to be found on Cornell's site.
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:11 pm: Edit |
http://aem.cornell.edu/
..cornell is predicting it instantly breaks the top 10 in undergrad business programs once it is ranked next year
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:12 pm: Edit |
its AEM
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:14 pm: Edit |
actually go here it is a better link:
http://business.aem.cornell.edu/
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:34 pm: Edit |
hotel school
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:34 pm: Edit |
Scubasteve please stop claiming that I base everything on personal opinion. I just stated that you were no where near Hollar or myself because I wanted you to realize that you were really annoying and kept putting down schools. Even after I claim that we both go to great schools you have to insist on coming up with another insulting comment. I'm using these massive exaggerations to hopefully get you to realize that we can put u down just as much as u have done to us. Please stop this negativity as then I will stop with the exaggeration and putting down of Lehigh.
| By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:35 pm: Edit |
Thank you scubasteve. Do you know what kind of stats you need to get in there? It sounds too selective for me. I have a 1420 (may retake) and a 3.7 GPA.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:37 pm: Edit |
1500 and ny resident
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 09:02 pm: Edit |
you dont necessarily need a 1500
..its part of the college of agricultural studies ..which receives grants from the state of new york... so ny residents get about a $10,000 break on tuition
..i don't think that makes it eaiser for a ny resident to get in... well at least not as much as it would at a true state school
...the business class is very small at cornell...probably close to on par with wharton in terms of selectivity
...eng,
i'm not even going to bother to respond to that i think a simple comparisson of our posts already speaks volumes
| By Snuffles (Snuffles) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 09:24 pm: Edit |
This is a hilarious thread.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 10:22 pm: Edit |
scuba stop the hate
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 10:40 pm: Edit |
there is no hate but if the stupidity could be toned down i would be much obliged
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 02:38 pm: Edit |
stupidity? did u get rejected by babson or somthnng?
| By Wiilll25 (Wiilll25) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 03:17 pm: Edit |
go to umichigan.. work hard and transfer into the business school as an junior, i think thats how it works at uMichigan and uVA
i got into umich-annarbor but decided to go to nyu.stern since stern places you into a business as a freshman
| By Snuffles (Snuffles) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 03:22 pm: Edit |
The trolling on this thread is unbelievable.
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 06:28 pm: Edit |
agreed
..hollaratme if babson rejected me you better start looking into tier 4 business programs
but to answer your question, no i did not even apply to babson... like i said i was accepted into a few of the top 10 business programs and some decent engineering programs as well
..just because i snap you back to reality from the obsessive trolling does not mean i have a vendetta against babson
..its a good school just not as good as the schools you compared it to
... a small percentage of the freshman pool actually gets directly accepted into umich business.. my friend did...the majority however have to wait to apply in their junior year
will you made a great choice in stern... i couldnt decide between stern and lehigh but ultimately choose the latter due to the integrated engineering and business program... all though i think my heart is still with stern
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 07:05 pm: Edit |
"..hollaratme if babson rejected me you better start looking into tier 4 business programs"
wow you are immature
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 07:18 pm: Edit |
Mr. hollaratme, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 08:15 pm: Edit |
wow your dumb
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 08:20 pm: Edit |
billy madison?
| By Snuffles (Snuffles) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 08:56 pm: Edit |
"wow your dumb "
Extremely intelligent comeback.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 09:34 pm: Edit |
thanks
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 09:51 pm: Edit |
after a 100 post tirade of trolling for babson and how it is the only perfect school for him and best school ever.. he now posts this:
By Enarang (Enarang) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 08:04 pm: Edit
My criteria:
I want to major in business.
Would liberal arts schools be good for me?
I want to stay between Washington D.C. and Boston.
I heard Northeastern is rising up big time and my brother is currenly there.
GPA: 3.57 overall end of junior year will most likely rise to 3.7 + senior year
Junior Year GPA: 3.8+
Senior year GPA: 4.0+
Very competitive public school: top kids go to top schools (Every Ivy) you have to apply for AP classes and a committee reviews your application before acceptance
4-5 A.P. Courses: U.S. History, U.S. Gov + Pol, Spanish, Computer Science and maybe Environmental Science
Will get an A in A.P. U.S. History
SAT: 1250+
Class Rank: 3rd decile (no exact rank) could be top 25% although it would still read 3rd decile
Great E.C's and teacher recommendations
President of FBLA
V.P. Debate Team: went to state debate finals
Captain of Tennis Team and # 1 singles player
Might be member of National Honor Society senior year (every one in my school does it and its not a big thing I think it might look like padding)
Sectionally Ranked Tennis Player by USTA New England (Might be good for D III)
Played piano for 10 years: recieved two certifications by National Piano Players Guild Auditions
Tutored inner city kids
Attended a summer enrichment program at Yale University
Job: Teaching tennis in summer of junior year
Selected to National Society of High School Scholars (I think it might be a scam)
Recieved A's in both Business Managment and Business Law
I would go out to Michigan (only school outside of northeast I would consider. However, you have to reapply for admission to their b-school and competetion is brutal.)
I heard Wake Forest is good but I could recieve a good business education in my desired location
.....hollaratme i think your friend has multiple personality disorder
| By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 09:55 pm: Edit |
Let me try to redirect this conversation a little with a "What are my chances post?" As some of you may have noticed I am trying to find a good business program for me. I am looking into Stern now and wonder what are my chances. Do you need SAT2s for stern? What are the average SAT and GPA for Stern?
My STats:
1420 (verbal 700) (retake going for 1500s)
3.7 GPA
APs by end of HS- U.S. Stat, Eco gov
Go to competiitve public school in New York
Work in public library for three years, counselor in summers, key club, book club, national honors society, a couple of volunteer things
My mom went to Stern Graduate school and my dad went to the 5 year MBA program at Stern (does this help at all)
Thanks for any input
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 10:37 pm: Edit |
you have double legacy at nyu... that helps yes, however not as much at nyu as it would at other schools... for some reason they dont place THAT MUCH weight on legacy.. however it will still give you an edge
what is your rank?
your profile seems very good, your sat is good enough for stern as it is... but if you feel that you can increase it by all means go for it.. i think you are in good shape
one suggestion, since you want to go to school for business, try to take up some business influenced ec's ...it doesn't necessarily have to be sponsered by the school... how about an internship or something?
working in public library for 3 years is a strong point..especially when applying for business.. it shows responsibility, drive, and motivation
..ed will help your improve your chances.. but only do so if you are in the finacial situation to do so (nyu generally only meets about 75% of need based aid)..and of course make sure it is your absolute top choice
..what other schools are you interested in?
george washington or boston u would make a good safety/ low end match for you ... they are very similar in setting to nyu (big city lack of traditional campus)... i personal like gw over bu
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 10:41 pm: Edit |
enarang hes calling you out
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 10:47 pm: Edit |
have you not yet realized you were duped by enarang? he brought you for a wonderful ride on the babson train... only he was never actually conducting...
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 10:48 pm: Edit |
lol i was interested in babson but trust me i have other schools higher on my list
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 10:54 pm: Edit |
yah i mean its cool if its even your top choice.. it is a good school... just dont base your opinion on it from what the boy wonder was saying
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 10:57 pm: Edit |
cornell hotel schoooll!
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 11:04 pm: Edit |
one suggestion: if that is where you want to go.. do something in the time beign that would indicate a sincere dedication/interest to hotel management
...they weight that factor heavily... becuase afterall it is a unique school and they are really looking for people who will be absorbed by the field
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 11:10 pm: Edit |
yea i am working at a sheraton
| By Belle28 (Belle28) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 11:10 pm: Edit |
zjb15- why not consider wharton as well? there are many ppl who got into wharton this year w/score in that ballpark. biz schools come mostly down to demonstrated leadership anyway.
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 12:19 pm: Edit |
Scuba I just wanted to come up with a post that I was sure you would look at and then go on a verbal outrage against me again for saying I have a different personality disorder. Its fun to do this once in a while and its good for you to get your stress out. Please feel free to keep outraging at me but all I ask is that yo provide some good info on the other business schools in the northeast that I should consider with the exception of the ones we all know I can't get into. Thanks and how big is the difference in business rankings? For example th difference between a school ranked in the 15-20 range to a school ranked in the 25-35 range and do the schools generally mve up or down a lot in any given year?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 03:39 pm: Edit |
e narang i was checking out richmond
looks good
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 07:36 pm: Edit |
yeah University of Richmond has a very good business school I heard as well as academics in general. Additionally I heard it has a great campus.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 11:18 am: Edit |
yo enarang i was checking out university of rochester too it looks good they have this thing that in ur junior year u can apply for a MBA program so u get ur MBA in five years. thats like having a MBA at the age of like 23
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 12:52 pm: Edit |
all good schools
both of you guys need to develop a better list of matches/safeties
your stats put you on the low end of most of the schools you have been talking about..albiet you should get into at least one.. you need still need to have a solid list of backups in case you dont
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 12:58 pm: Edit |
im using Rutgers as a safety im def going to get into one of the campuses and the rest of my schools are reach/matches
tell me what you think
Cornell Hotel School
NYU-stern
Boston College
University of Rochester
Swathmore
University of Richmond
Babson
Rutgers-safety
Tulane
Boston University
George Washington University
Georgetown University
ill def break a 1300
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 01:49 pm: Edit |
yeah my safeties are gonna be Northeastern, Bentley,Uconn and possibly Fairfield as I practically live in the damn place.
I will probably get into at least Babson (Number 1 choice I'm applying early decision), George Washington, Boston University, University of Richmond and one other place.
Hollaratme we will definetely get into at least one school on our list. I say that u and I are in at Babson, GW and possibly BU if our sat's go to around 1300 (they will and sat's aren't everything as I'm sure you've realized by looking through this board).
Your reaches should be Georgetown (my cousin was admitted with a 1500+ SAT) Swathmore (difficult) and BC (more difficult and business is equal to Babson why go for the harder admission if you know u want business when you can go to an easier admission college and get the same if not better education because its entirely business.)
I advise against Rochester. My cousin went to RIT and the winter was insanely brutal and I'm from the northeast. Academics are one thing but keep in mind location plays a VERY BIG part in deciding which companies will come to your school and larger cities (New York, Boston, Washington D.C.) often have more companies then smaller isolated cities such as Rochester who has Kodak.
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 02:04 pm: Edit |
rochester is extremely cold.. its in the snow belt so they get pounded with snow... the city is surpisingly very clean however those who inhabit the city are not...i think it has the highest muder rate in new york state.. scary stuff around there
swarthmore does not have a business school.. it is a liberal arts college.. i dont really know your stats but it would be an extreme reach for you based soley on the sat scores you provided
hollaratme what do the rest of your stats look like?
enarang ...good list of safeties i think you are in good shape with your list... just visit babson and the other schools you are interested before you make the final decision of whether or not you will apply ed
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 02:17 pm: Edit |
I have visited Babson as well as BU.
For Babson I loved the people, the professors, the unique curriculum, the quality education and the campus. I could potentially play tennis for them as well as I have talked to the tennis coach
it brings out the entrepreneur in me
For BU I liked the School of Managment building(some of the other buldings make me feel I'm still in high school). If you have seen the SMG building I'm sure you would agree. The quality of education is good. Rankings are up there as well but the innovation and sole business focus with Babson just draws me to it. Its like a small campus filled with minds brewing to create the next Fortune 500 company. Kids hope to create the next Home Deport etc... I've had that same mindset for a long time.
Both schools get great recruiting opportunities as they are in or close to Boston. If I had to I would pick Babson for that strictly business focus and the entrepreneurship mindset that is in everyone inclduing myself. It doesn't matter much but Babson is ranked higher then BU overall and has the 1 for entrepreneurship. I'll get a good well rounded business education and maybe just maybe I'll create the next Home Depot or big company
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 02:29 pm: Edit |
My SAT 1 is a 1200 560 verbal 640 math
im retaking in june it should be around a 1300
grades- 88 uw in all honors and aps
EC's
Debate team- captain
mock trial- officer
model un- historian
started a group for volunteering at my temple
science club
young politican club
computer club some officer pos nex year
young ambassdors club
sports
cross country 9
winter track 9,10
spring track 10
lacrosse 9
community service
300 hours tutoring 4th graders
Every sunday im in charge of the cooking at the temple 200 hrs
teaching young sikh boys how to tie turbans ( im sikh and i wear a turban will tht help?)
volunteered at a sikh camp 2 summers
jobs
work for sheratong junior year and prolly senior year
worked for a bank sophmore summer
worked at a hallmark 9th grade
classes
taking classes at a local colelge over the summer
awards - some speech awards
Achievement award
how do i look ?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 02:30 pm: Edit |
id do econ at swat
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 02:36 pm: Edit |
e narang rochester is between NYC n boston 3-2 MBA looks good bro
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 02:45 pm: Edit |
suit yourself I'm gonna be gettin alot sweeter job offers. Not because the school is any better or worst but because of the location. Companies would rather go to a school nearby when they know the graduates are good rather then go to a further city where there is the hassle of travel and the graduate from that particular school farther away may not want to work where the company is located. Whereas if you go to a school next to or in a big city the companies would know that you would more likely take the job offer because you have already gone to school there. I think it makes sense just something to keep in mind. Boston MBA gee... should I go to Harvard, no maybe MIT, how about BC or BU. You have options including arguably the best college in the country along with the third or fourth best as well in the same town
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 03:01 pm: Edit |
Cornell Hotel School--high reach
NYU-stern --- reach
Boston College -- reach
University of Rochester --reach
Swathmore --high high reach
University of Richmond -- reach
Babson --match
Rutgers-safety
Tulane --higher level match
Boston University --match (should at least get into gsp)
George Washington University --match but admission is getting harder each year
Georgetown University --reach
hollaratme as you can see you have a lot lot lot of reach schools, cut some out...you need more match level schools and perhaps one more safety
your gpa and sat are a little low for a lot of those schools...what is your rank?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 03:28 pm: Edit |
no rank hotel school looks at mainly work expirence tho
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 03:30 pm: Edit |
i kno ill get into to rutgers so i dont need another safety maybe ill find another match
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 03:33 pm: Edit |
what do you to get into richmond?
and e narang i just pointed out rochester as a possiability
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 03:46 pm: Edit |
SAT/ACT 25th-75th percentile (2002): 1220-1390
Overall acceptance rate: 41%
Students in top 10% of HS class: 60%
Students in top 50% of HS class: 99%
maybe more of a high match for you... it is a small school so gpa is a big factor at richmond which might hurt you
us news rates it as:
Selectivity: Most Selective
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 03:59 pm: Edit |
u think rochester is a reach
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 04:21 pm: Edit |
well its a very solid school... ranked #35 nationally
Selectivity: Most Selective
SAT/ACT 25th-75th percentile (2002): 1210-1410
Verbal: 590 – 690
Math: 620 – 720
Overall acceptance rate: 56%
acceptance rate is high but they could just have a very qualified applicant pool.. similar situation at u of chicago and emory
Top 10 percent of high school class: 76%
Average high school GPA: 3.8
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 04:56 pm: Edit |
1300 and i should be good right?
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 05:08 pm: Edit |
yah 1300 puts you in the median .. of course the higher you can get the better off you are
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 05:08 pm: Edit |
whats your gpa weighted?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 05:15 pm: Edit |
they arent given out but we get 8 pts and 10 for aps i have mostly honors and aps, we dont have rank
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 05:33 pm: Edit |
hey Richmond is cool but the gpa thing is gonna be weird for me. As I stated in my other posts my gpa is going to be a 3.57 at the end of junior year. However, do u think that Richmond will take into account that I have taken one ap class already and recieved an A-. And next year I will be taking 3-4 ap courses. That will give me a total of either 4 or 5 ap courses. Additionally, next year my gpa wll be over 4.0 bringing my cumulative gpa up to a 3.72-3.75. My cumulative isn't as high as it should be but will Richmond see that junior year I brought my gpa up from a 3.3 something to a 3.8 and I have continued these grades into my senior year?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 07:05 pm: Edit |
dude i think we both have good shots at richmond but one thing is i dont think it is well known here in the tri state area where i live
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 08:27 pm: Edit |
yeah same here most people go either up to Boston, stay in the area or go really far down south
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 01:06 am: Edit |
oh well it looks pretty cool
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 03:22 pm: Edit |
I've heard some strong thing about Richmond recently and I would look into it
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 03:42 pm: Edit |
yeah i am
i made my official list of colleges im applying to
Reaches
Cornell
NYU
Georgetown University
Match/Reach
Boston College
University of Rochester
Tulane
Match
University of Richmond
Boston University
Babson
George Washington University
Safety
Rutgers
what about you
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 03:50 pm: Edit |
This is my list:
Early Decision & Number 1 Choice: Babson (I want to be an Entrepreneur)
Then if not accepted this is my order of preference:
Boston University
George Washington University
University of Richmond
Northeastern University
Bentley College
University of Connecticut
Fairfield U (I almost live in the school its in my home town)
Just a note if you want to get into NYU Stern you need to first of all do something different (that stands out) and then raise your SAT scores to at least 1400
Your list looks solid
What do you think of my list?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 03:53 pm: Edit |
dude i think you u can add some harder schools in it seems like yout doubting yourself add like a reach you never know bro
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 04:10 pm: Edit |
any suggstions on reaches?
Remember I want to do business. I'm not willing to go out to Michigan and risk not getting into their business school
We can't get into Sterns at NYU
What else is there that would give me a distict better business education then Babson?
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 04:11 pm: Edit |
Remember I want to start my own company if you have any suggestions please tell me if there would be a better school then Babson to do that from?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 04:17 pm: Edit |
i kno im not gettin into nyu but my parents have a fetish for it all indian parents around here do. Boston college is reasonable for you tufts is rochester, there are a lot more man. i think you can get into better school then like northeastern and bentley i mean they are ur safeties but i think u can add more reaches u never know. and if a school doesnt have business economics is like the same thing
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 04:23 pm: Edit |
Business is not entirely like economics. In fact they are very different. I want to be an entrepreneur. Yes BC is a good school but would I want to go to a school that has a good business program or go to a school that has an equally good if not better business program and the number 1 ranked entrepreneurship program as well.
Additionaly, I visited BC and I'm not really down with the homogenuous population. I like diversity meeting people of many different backgrounds. BC doesn't have that
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 04:33 pm: Edit |
what about tufts? Cornell? Penn state?
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 04:45 pm: Edit |
Tufts no business program they have econ.
Cornell: Great school new business program location location location! I know someone who was accepted to Cornell but turned it down because their business program isn't very strong yet and they decided to go full scholarship to George Washington instead. Penn State is good but not good enough to convinve me its better then Babson
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 04:50 pm: Edit |
UVA
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 04:52 pm: Edit |
65 percent of the kids who go to cornell hotel school land up with jobs on wall streeet.
your basically saying someone from brown will get passed up for someone from fordham or pace. not possible
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 05:01 pm: Edit |
not really I don't see how Brown and Pace came into this. UVA is hard you should try but its referred to being as hard as HYPS if your out of state. I know my number one choice and to me its not an issue of prestige its about getting a good well rounded business education and getting a good job. Babson fullfils both of those requirements just perfectly for me along with its atmosphere and people. By going to Babson you might just be able to invest in my company on Wall Street someday.
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 05:01 pm: Edit |
hollaratme... the schools you are naming are too unrealistic ...with the exception of penn state... an applicant witha 1500sat and 4.0 gpa has a tough time at the previously named schools
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 05:06 pm: Edit |
"I like diversity meeting people of many different backgrounds."
carefull on the diversity comment.. while babson does has a high international population... the actually mentalitiy of the students is very similar
here are some excerpts from princeton review:
"The typical Babson undergrad is either “a white suburbanite from an East Coast private school” or “an international who smokes, is always on his/her cell phone, and wears designer threads."
"there are too many unfriendly people here" No one says hello when you walk by them and if you initiate a greeting, it is seldom returned.” Reports one undergrad, “Many students are individualistic in nature. They could happily survive on a desert island with a computer, a cell phone, and caffeine.”
"If you want to be criticized for not ordering every new gadget in Maxim magazine, or for not having more than one car on campus, this is the place for you"
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 05:06 pm: Edit |
double post
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 05:06 pm: Edit |
u can invest in my company ;)
i like babson but im checking out other schools. rochesters 3-2 programs looks attracting get a mba that way if ur business fails you still have an option of working at another company at high postion because you have a MBA
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 05:08 pm: Edit |
my bad about the pace brown thing though
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 05:12 pm: Edit |
Rochester would be good for you if you don't mind the weather and snow. Good match school with great program. Hey Scuba that description of Babson's students is me. Except I'm not white but I do wear designer threads and am always on my cell phone with the same goals.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 05:14 pm: Edit |
ha
yo e narang when u visted babson how was the campus. Was it really small? Did you talk to the kids do they party hard?>
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 05:21 pm: Edit |
yeah the people party hard in the Boston club scene. I don't blame them they get a nicely located campus with great surroundings and just 15 minutes away is the city of Boston with a club scene that would be good for anyone
| By Alan5 (Alan5) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 05:34 pm: Edit |
I hate to disappoint you but Babson is not "fifteen minutes" from Boston. With traffic, its more like 40 minutes. But During rush hour it can take up to an hour to get into town. If you go to Babson, you will need a car becuase the public transportation (commuter rail train) is unreliable and shuts down before the Boston clubs close.
| By Alan5 (Alan5) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 05:59 pm: Edit |
Hey Enarang,
Have you heard about the annual B-School Beanpot Case Competition? The partipating schools are Babson, Northeastern, Bentley, Boston University, MIT, and Suffolk.
The competition is judged by top executives from area companies. The judging is blind, meaning that none of the judges know where the students go to school.
http://www.bschoolbeanpot.com/schools/index.html
Northeastern has dominated this case competition. NEU was won five out of the last six competitions, including this year:
http://www.cba.neu.edu/cba/index.cfm?page=32&nav=14
The only other teams to win the competition have been Bentley (1 win) and MIT (1 win). But Northeastern has made the finals every time.
I think that Northeastern co-op program probably gives them an edge in terms of practical business skills. Thoughts?
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 06:39 pm: Edit |
Buddy I love your trolling for NEU. I hate to break the news to you but my bother is currently graduating from Northeastern and he even says that Babson has the better business program and in fact Babson was his number one choice but he didn't get accepted and that is why he chose Northeastern. That news is pretty cool that Northeastern won the Beanpot Case Competition. I would appreciate if you toned down your trolling level because to get a real insight into what a school is about you should talk to someone who has gone there or is currently there. My brother is in that situation and says that although Northeastern is improving it will not reach as high as you are predicting in your other posts. Anyway great job Northeastern on winning the Bean Pot Case Competition
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 06:53 pm: Edit |
lol
| By Alan5 (Alan5) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 06:58 pm: Edit |
Babson should be better considering that its primary focus as a college is the study of business. Given this focus, you would think that Babson would be able to beat NEU in head to head case competitions. Oh well, better luck next year.
What's even more interesting is that the case competition is held at BU's SMG, yet BU has yet to win a single case competition. How do you explain NEU's dominance over the other schools? One would think that MIT would own this competition. The only explanation that I can think of is co-op.
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 07:17 pm: Edit |
I can also think of the undergraduate school business rankings. Where is Northeastern towards the bottom I'm not sure but I think its somewhere below 60. Where is Babson top 35 and going higher. Although Northeastern has the number one co-op program Babson isn't far behind coming in at number 10 with the number 1 entrepreneurship ranking as well. The professors are great to as noted in a survey done of the 331 top colleges in the country Babson had the best professors and the number 2 ranking for interaction with diversity population
| By Alan5 (Alan5) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 07:18 pm: Edit |
The Babson teams came in third and fourth this year, so it was strong showing:
http://www3.babson.edu/Newsroom/Releases/babsonbeanpot2004.cfm
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 07:22 pm: Edit |
yes, but I believe your view on a school is highly convoluted if its based on the ranking of one competition. Northeastern is good and its getting better I will definetely agree to that one. Do you think I could get into Babson and do you currently attend NEU?
| By Alan5 (Alan5) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 07:24 pm: Edit |
Sure, but the U.S. News Rankings are two years behind. As I mentioned in other posts, Northeastern's stats went up big time last year in all the areas that U.S. News uses to calculate the rankings. Northeastern will certainly move up when the new rankings come out in the fall. While I realize that Babson will still be ranked higher, the gap bewteen the schools will be a lot smaller.
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 07:28 pm: Edit |
thats even better for both schools as both their rankings will increase big time
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 08:10 pm: Edit |
babson owns in business wharton better watch out me and enarang are gonna make babson number one
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 08:25 pm: Edit |
thats right biatch
| By Alan5 (Alan5) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 09:59 pm: Edit |
Hey Enarang, what do you think about these business rankings:
http://www.bschool.com/best_b-schools.html
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 11:26 pm: Edit |
Enarang you got to stop making it so easy to catch you in lies:
"I hate to break the news to you but my bother is currently graduating from Northeastern and he even says that Babson has the better business program and in fact Babson was his number one choice but he didn't get accepted and that is why he chose Northeastern."
Ok. so now you are acting like your brother is an authority on NEU business school.... when in reality:
"To all those proposing Northeastern University my brother is recently going to graduate from Northeastern this summer. Unfortunately, his experience was not that great. He applied for the business school but didn't get in. Therefore he switched majors and decided to do economics. "
..Interesting, he does not even attend the business school at NEU...
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 11:30 pm: Edit |
"Northeastern towards the bottom I'm not sure but I think its somewhere below 60. Where is Babson top 35 and going higher"
..Again false
Northeastern has a continued trend of moving up in the rankings
...Babson is not going higher it is pullin a 180 if anything as i have proved early in this thread
..it went from being ranked #26 in 2000
... to being ranked #30 in 2002
.... and now #32 in 2004
it has actually dropped 6 spots in just the last 4 years... would you consider that "going higher"??
hollar,
"babson owns in business wharton better watch out me and enarang are gonna make babson number one "
you want to work in business... stop acting like an 8 year old or i won't give you any more advice
...now go to bed
| By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 02:12 am: Edit |
Babson seems to becoming more known on the westcoast. Hence, it's actual "rankings" are'nt improving, persay, but the overall prestige is. The U of A was ranked 20th...and personally I'd rather go to Cal Poly then U of A for business and Cal Poly was ranked like 120. So you can throw out those worthless rankings. They're fun to look at and everything, but when it comes down to the nitty gritty, they hold very little value.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 06:50 am: Edit |
wait so what kind of rep does babson have on the west coast? what do people think of it
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 11:07 am: Edit |
People, my brother did not get into the business school but many of his best friends did. They also applied to Babson. Sorry for saying that he got into business as he's a little confused about the situation also. But his friends who have now graduated say that Babson was definetely there top choice and if they were accepted they would have chosen Babson over Northeastern. Thats just them but thats two real situation.
| By Alan5 (Alan5) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 01:31 pm: Edit |
I would take Northeastern over Babson for two reasons. First, I hate the suburbs. I grew up in the burbs and believe me its soooo boring. Wellesley, where Babson is located as boring as it gets. Plus getting into Boston can be a real pain if you don't have a car. At Northeastern, the entire city is right at your doorstep. Second, Northeastern's co-op program is superior to Babson internship program. Northeastern students can work through out the year (up to six months at a time) and most of the positions are paid. Some of the co-ops pay up to $25 per hour. Students can also co-op abroad and in other cities. Babson's internship program is primarily limited to the summer time and many of the positions are unpaid. In my opinion, interning over the summer is little to short to gain any real experience. Plus many of the important people are on vacation. The best time to intern is in the fall and winter when companies are at their busiest, unless of course you are working in the hospitality industry.
Northeastern's Business co-op program:
http://www.cba.neu.edu/ugrad/index.cfm?page=61&nav=23
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 03:00 pm: Edit |
if i were going to boston i would pick BU over NEU any day if location is what matters most importantly to you
| By Alan5 (Alan5) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 03:15 pm: Edit |
Actually, I would still pick NEU over BU for the co-op program. BU may be more prestigious but Northeastern is catching up. In terms of post graduate employment, both place well at top companies in the area like Fidelity, John Hancock, Gillette, etc.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 08:07 pm: Edit |
does babson have a 5 year MBA program is so im applying ED
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 08:27 pm: Edit |
i dont think so
... and most 5 year mba programs are not guranteed admission... you usually have to apply for the mba part in your junior year of college and admission is typically selective
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 08:35 pm: Edit |
does babson have that though
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 08:36 pm: Edit |
yo e narang this kid my sister knows got in this year to babson wit a 1250 and a 3.8
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 09:20 pm: Edit |
wow pretty nice I should have a 1250-1300 maybe 1300+ and 3.7 + if counting senior year. I think I'll get some leeway for the gpa because I will have taken 4 or 5 a.p. classes. Also I've done strong in my two business courses although electives I recieved final gades of A in both Business law and Business managment.
I'm gonna apply E.D. and make Babson know they are my number 1 choice but I gotta say we both have great chances with our great EC's
Babson does not have a 5 year M.B.A. program. I heard that most Babson undergrads get into terrific mba programs because of their high gmat scores. This is due to Babson's intense and well-rounded curriculum that gives Babson grads a good background in all areas of business. (Finance,marketing,managment,entrepreneurship etc...)
Thanks that post really made me feel confident do you know if the person applied E.D/E.A. or Regular Admission?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 09:37 pm: Edit |
yoo
apply ea its easier 60% got in ED and 67% got in EA last year accodring to US NEWS are u sure they dont have a 5 year maybe its unofficial i seriously rather spend an extra year and leave with a MBA
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 09:50 pm: Edit |
I'm doin E.D. because I don't want them to have any doubt in their mind that I might not go to Babson if admitted. With my stats I would have a great chance and I think you would have a great as well. What do you think?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 09:55 pm: Edit |
yeah man but im gonna EA since im EDing Cornell hotel school
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 10:46 am: Edit |
yeah true good option
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 02:53 pm: Edit |
true number one hotel school in the world like 75% of the grads have big time jobs on wall street
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:17 pm: Edit |
yeah thats good. Babson has I think 93% undergrads employed or in grad school within 6 months of graduation and the average salary is like 40K not bad. A few gradautes made around 100K for a starting salary now that is great.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:25 pm: Edit |
$$$$$$$$$
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:30 pm: Edit |
thats exactly what I'm thinking
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:38 pm: Edit |
is babson fun tho
are you taking a car
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:39 pm: Edit |
man I'm takin two. The turbo and Range Rover
| By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:40 pm: Edit |
The only things that turns me off about Babson are certain books make the students sound mean and the workload is described as insane.
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:40 pm: Edit |
the benz and rolls will be at home
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:41 pm: Edit |
are u serious? i m gettina a 330 ci but my parents wont let me take it
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:43 pm: Edit |
yo wat ur sn lets talk on AIM
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:46 pm: Edit |
it is about time..thank god
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:46 pm: Edit |
sorry I don't give out my sn
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:48 pm: Edit |
tru
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:50 pm: Edit |
security reasons and Scuba man your input is a waste of your time as well as ours for have reading it
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:52 pm: Edit |
what are u the president son
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:54 pm: Edit |
I keep my private information confidential
| By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:54 pm: Edit |
rejected
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:57 pm: Edit |
LOL i think i kno u
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 04:00 pm: Edit |
no you don't know me and I will not respond to any other posts regarding personal information thank you
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 04:03 pm: Edit |
ill see u at babson bro
| By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 04:03 pm: Edit |
Uhoh, enarang has something to hide.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 04:13 pm: Edit |
presidents son
| By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 04:16 pm: Edit |
The president doesn't have a son. President's daughter perhaps?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 04:32 pm: Edit |
maybe he does but nonbody knows of him cz he like a the housekeepers son
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 04:33 pm: Edit |
Once again I will not respond to questions about personal information and if Hollar you decide to go to Babson then we might just end up meeting there but until then I won't answer any questions regarding personal information
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 04:35 pm: Edit |
Please do not try to convey a negative image on me by saying "I'm the housekeeper's son." You do not know anything about my life nor will you for that matter.
| By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 04:56 pm: Edit |
You need to chill man. Don't be humorless.
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 05:17 pm: Edit |
Humor is good but I will not give out information that could endanger my safety. Hey Hollar how is Trinity and Brandeis for business?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 05:24 pm: Edit |
dude brandeis is a jewish university no place for an indian though its not ranked for business well i heard overall its good and trinity is weak on the business side but overall its good.
sorry bout the housekeeper comment
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 05:33 pm: Edit |
yo are u only looking at schools in the mass/conn area?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 05:42 pm: Edit |
wait did u say the average starting salary for a babson grad is 40k thats not enough for a CLK 55 AMG
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 05:51 pm: Edit |
apology accepted for the housekeeper comment but next time learn what the CLASS of the person your dealing with is before making a comment. With a turbo my parents are housekeepers? Stupid interpretations like that
Hollar this is my range: I'm looking at schools between Washington D.C. (including V.A.) to Boston. I can't figure out a better business school then Babson's entrepreneurship program. If you are looking at overall (exclude Upenn Wharton and NYU Stern before people start claiming I lie).
I think people miss the point as we have already seen in this thread that Babson's ranking maybe going down but its prestige is going much higher. (Savedbythebell's post). When was the last time you knew someone in Cali that knew about Babson. Its prestige is going up as is the selectivity and overall reputation. Therfore it would make perfect sense to say that Babson is going to rise in the rankings and eventually break the Top 20 and probably Top 15 as it was already top 20 at one point when the school did not nearly have as much national reputation or selective admission standards.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 05:56 pm: Edit |
i was talking to one of my friends he was telling me babson crazy small meaning all the professors know you. in most other colleges u can skip class time to time but in babson its different if ur not in class people notice and u were question i kno were not going to college to skip class but is a close knit college good?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 05:58 pm: Edit |
ah dont get too cocky about the turbo both neighbors on both sides have on ;)
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 06:33 pm: Edit |
dude i wudnt only major in entrepreneurship i would pick another one like finance or international business. My company is gonna be internatinal like my dads so i mite do international biz to or finance not sure maybe i can double major in international biz and entrepreneurship and minor in finance
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 06:41 pm: Edit |
same here I'm gonna major in entrepreneurship and minor in another business field maybe Managment, International Business or another field
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 06:44 pm: Edit |
so heres the summary im talkin to a kid from LA right now babson not known to average joe in cali but sum1 who knows bout colleges think its alright
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 06:46 pm: Edit |
don't ask Californians about colleges oustide of Cali. Cardinal Rule. There response is gonna be All the damn UC's
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 06:46 pm: Edit |
i like GW tooo i visied it and i like the city feel. My friend visited babson amd he stayed with his cz whch is def diff then goin wit rents he said social life is poor and campus is extremely small
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 06:46 pm: Edit |
ha yeah this kid goes to berkley
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 06:51 pm: Edit |
i seriously have seniortis even tho im a junior
how are u gonna prep for the sats this summmer have y takin courses
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 06:57 pm: Edit |
"I think people miss the point as we have already seen in this thread that Babson's ranking maybe going down but its prestige is going much higher. (Savedbythebell's post). When was the last time you knew someone in Cali that knew about Babson"
What evidence do you have that babson's prestige is "going much higher"
...none ...savedbythebell is not a reliable source since he just went through the whole college admission process and researched business schools.. of course he is going to stumble upon babson eventually
believe me people outsite of the northeast have never heard of babson, most people in the northeast have never even heard of babson!
..it is a sepciality school so it will never be that prestigous unless it somehow became better than wharton (yea right)
...seriously man you dont listen... you are very unknowledgeable about the whole college process, and due to your extreme subjectiveness you will never learn
"Its prestige is going up as is the selectivity and overall reputation. Therfore it would make perfect sense to say that Babson is going to rise in the rankings and eventually break the Top 20 and probably Top 15 "
You're like Baghdad Bob "The americans have not entered baghdad, i repeat the americans have not entered baghdad [as US humvees roll in the background and gunshots fire]
I just don't think you are ever going to get it..selectivity goes up at every school every single year with every single school...nothing out of the ordinary there
...you are so extremely illogical that it scares me to think you may one day run your family's business ....babson is on a -6 downfall in the rankings over the last 4 years... what the hell would make it raise 15+ spots all of a sudden, especially since no school has EVER raised that many spots in the short run
"it was already top 20 at one point when the school did not nearly have as much national reputation or selective admission standards. "
::shakes head in amazement:: babson was never a top 20 school the closest it has came was #26 in 2000... it has since dropped 6 spots in the rankings
national reputation? No, sir
..stop your endless trolling and blatent lies on behalf of Babson...no one is impressed... based on your response about that class comment, you obviously have some kind of inferiorty complex... well look babson is a good school, but you will never convice these people that it as good as you say... so i'm sorry but you are just going to have to deal with it
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 07:02 pm: Edit |
exactly people have only heard of it in the northeast where do we live NJ and CONN where do we need to look for jobs NORTHEAST! Carolyn even said more company recruiter come to babson the HARVARD
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 07:17 pm: Edit |
hollar try to follow the trend of this conversation here
... your friend enarang made some wild assertion that babson has a national reputation and that because of its increasing national prestige its rank will increase
..i agree with what you are saying but that is something totally different... its just that what he said is a postively false assumption
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 07:19 pm: Edit |
babson is a goood schoool or that what ive heard it is but the thing that i dont like about it is that its small i love the all business focus but the size matters also
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 07:21 pm: Edit |
My inferiority complex. You are inferior to all. Did I criticize you? NO. Did you criticize me? YES Why? Cause you take a passion in doing it. You should be banned forever for blatantly criticizing not only people but schools. how would u like it if someone called you the housekeeper's son when your not. They thought you were hiding something from them when you weren't. How would you like it if I just came onto your board and just trashed Lehigh out the door. Lehigh situated in the nowhere zone of rural pennsylvania where people sit and pretend they learn engineering when all they do is get the surrounding neighborhoods pissed beyond belief and just smoke rocks all day.
Your criticizing of schools is just unexplainable. Did I ever say that Babson will jump 15 spots next year. Can you reference that for me. No you can't because I never said it. You are no better then a useless person who criticizes every thing that I can possibly type.
You criticize fellow members of the board as well. Undermining their knowledge of schools. Well how in god's name would u know Savedbythebell just happened to "come along" Babson.
You know Scuba once I thought you might actually be a person willing to offer good advice, "enarang ...good list of safeties i think you are in good shape with your list... just visit babson and the other schools you are interested before you make the final decision of whether or not you will apply ed.
Now I know all your are is a person who bud's into others conversations. Provides people with useless quotes about themselves and just loves to criticize colleges that you think are inferior.
My response to Lehigh: YOU MADE A HIGHLY UNEDUCATED CHOICE BY PICKING IT OVER THE OTHER SUPPOSED TOP 10 BUSINESS SCHOOLS YOU GOT INTO. "I want to do the combined engineering and business program" When I could have done the top 10 business program. Great choice your a winner!
I honestly think a moderator needs to step in and block you off either for a while or permanenetly as your criticizing is just getting unacceptable. Surprise , howcome you only chose to criticize Babson not Alan5 and his SUPERTROLLING about Northeastern. Did I come and post on your Lehigh board NO. So why the hell do you have to come on this board and just blantaly criticize schools with no regard for them. As you are not very smart in picking the school you did given where you supposedly got accepted.
I hope this ends the fire burning in you as I have clearly responded for what I feel you have done to me. As long as you agree to offer advice whether it be negative or positive doesn't matter, stop criticizing school and MOST IMPORTANTLY STOP criticizing PEOPLE I will never respond in such an angry manner. Deal?
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 07:23 pm: Edit |
Moderator I ask that if Scuba ever lashes out in this manner again to anyone he be banned from Collegeconfidential. My response was to his post criticizing schools as well as person's facts whether they be true or not by virtue of misinformation
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 07:36 pm: Edit |
The difference between me and you is that I acutally contriubute to these forums.. all you do is troll... other people have already asked for your removal in previous threads
"How would you like it if I just came onto your board and just trashed Lehigh out the door. Lehigh situated in the nowhere zone of rural pennsylvania where people sit and pretend they learn engineering when all they do is get the surrounding neighborhoods pissed beyond belief and just smoke rocks all day. "
See the difference is I dont troll for Lehigh.. however you troll for babson...but since you brought it up i will defend false comments...
rural? no it is located in bethlehem which is a city (princeton review says:Campus Surroundings: City ) ...not to mention it is also an hour from philly and two hours from nyc
"smoke rocks all day." um your wild accusations are unfounded as always... maybe you are part of the Mccarthy family which would explain your wealth but unexplainable lack of logic
And I feel I made a good choice in turning down the other schools I was accepted to... the other schools do not have the combined engineering business program that Lehigh does... and the combined program at lehigh is actually way more selective than most of the top ten business schools (check the stats if you dont believe me)
"Did I ever say that Babson will jump 15 spots next year. Can you reference that for me. No you can't because I never said it."
you want reference sure here you go.. you posted it no more than 30min ago ( i know its hard to remember what is said in excessive trolling)
" Babson is going to rise in the rankings and eventually break the Top 20 and probably Top 15 "
well since it is ranked #32 right now ...in order for it to break the top 15 it will need to climb more than 15 spots.. there is your proof
one more extreme contradiction from you that i found funny:
By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 05:51 pm
"think people miss the point as we have already seen in this thread that Babson's ranking maybe going down but its prestige is going much higher. (Savedbythebell's post). When was the last time you knew someone in Cali that knew about Babson"
and when hollar says californians have never really heard of babson:
By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 06:46 pm:
"don't ask Californians about colleges oustide of Cali. Cardinal Rule. There response is gonna be All the damn UC's "
again im done speaking here.. most people who waste their time reading your sensless posts already know you are just an obssesive, misguided troller
i no longer need to speak, your posts speak volumes
have a nice day
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 08:08 pm: Edit |
yeah too bad you couldn't reference when I said Babson was going to rise up. Thats because I never indicated a apsecific time frame. Soon doesn't have a definite time period. you misinformed, useless unhelping hopeful engineer who wants to have that little peace of business so you can say, " I went to Lehigh to prove that I'm the stupidest person one earth who chose Lehigh over the top 10 business program in the country."
Your a useless, criticizing failure of words that will not make the success of a damn penny to your name. You don't offer advice you make people stupider for having read what you type on your keyboard.
Your success will come in the number of tin cans you have collected sitting on the side of the road. I honestly hope you get a job and then on the very next day they fire you and tell you that you are worthless. You know why because by the looks of it that just might be your next step. Boy your a real winner ScubaSteve!
Once again you are a criticizing failure in all respects of humanity
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 08:26 pm: Edit |
wow this is getting heated up
| By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 08:33 pm: Edit |
Just from reading both of your posts for awhile now, (Enarang and Scubasteve), I would venture that Scubasteve will be more successful in life.
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 08:36 pm: Edit |
please Zbjz15 don't enter this one
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 08:46 pm: Edit |
I think you and I will both be more successful not just in life but as people. Hollaratme you are included as well.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 09:31 pm: Edit |
does babson have a football team
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 09:42 pm: Edit |
no babson does not have a football team. Hollaratme it seems as though you are not likin the small size of the school thing and the lack of campus life. I don't blame you if you don't have a car it must seem a little isolated but I'm gonna bring my cars and I might just live in Boston and commute. If there are words to describe Boston nightlife it would be amazing. Remember this is just 15 minutes away by car. If you don't have a car I'm sure some of your friends would have them and you could easily go with them for a night out in the city.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 09:55 pm: Edit |
40 mins bro i spent the whole summer in boston everything closes at2 u cant buy booze after 11. if im going to babson im def staying in the dorms freshman year. if i end going to babson and itsthat bad with out a car i mite bring be able to convince my rents to let me take my car. its hott.
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 10:15 pm: Edit |
actually if you like the campus feel you will love the campus as its away from the hustle and bustle of the city. Trust me its not 40 minutes I did the drive in almost huricane like conditions in less then 20. My brother's friend does it every day in 15-20
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 10:25 pm: Edit |
nice nice i dont like NEU so many ppl get it confused with northwestern its not even funny. does ur bro like it? he got rejected by babson what were his stats?
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 10:28 pm: Edit |
2.8 gpa (low)
1160 SAT
Great tennis player, drummer, soccer player
He got into NEU because he went to one of the most prestigious schools in CT where out of a graduating class of 50 kids over 10 went to ivy leagues. That was just his year and could have been the reason why he didn't care towards the end. Two of his classmates founded some math formula and gained national attention on nbc, cbs, New York Times etc....
So by those numbers I think we can get inE
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 10:35 pm: Edit |
true this senior from my school lastyear didnt get in to any of the school he wanted to so he went to some prep school for post grad and got into babson and now he going ther next fall
| By Jer728 (Jer728) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 12:03 am: Edit |
I'm sorry, but SCUBASTEVE FOR PRESIDENT. Carry on...
| By Scubasteve (Scubasteve) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 02:00 am: Edit |
::gives a Nixon peace sign and trots off into the sunset happy go lucky::
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 11:14 am: Edit |
Me for president
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 02:37 pm: Edit |
screw president me CEO of big company
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 06:10 pm: Edit |
Hollaratme we see eye to eye on good things
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 06:19 pm: Edit |
were u into the apprentice?
| By Alan5 (Alan5) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 06:33 pm: Edit |
Hey Enrang, I don't "SUPERTROLL" , I'm only defending against Lenk's baseless attacks. Most of the time, I'm helping other posters. For examnple, when a poster asks the board to recommend some schools that fit their criteria, I will usually recommend a number schools. I will only throw NEU in there if it has one of the programs that the poster is interested in. (e.g. pharmacy, business, engineering etc.).
Good luck at Babson, its a great school.
Lenk should be along any minute now....
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 06:37 pm: Edit |
lol
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 06:43 pm: Edit |
Alan5 are u at NEU?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 06:49 pm: Edit |
he gotta be at NEU thats he rec it to everyone
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 07:01 pm: Edit |
yes very true
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 07:43 pm: Edit |
so to sum it up campus life at babson sucks?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 07:47 pm: Edit |
e narang what do u think of GW i went to visit pretty nice
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 08:22 pm: Edit |
yeah but more of a political feel to it. I like that aspect and I also dislike it. Good business but I heard the political scene is very large. Princeton Review said everyone is glued to CNN or something similar to it.
Babson campus life could suck. As could the campus life at any school theoretically. Babson is a small school however, the campus is not. It has I think around 350 acres. If you have a car Boston is easily accessible as it's just a short drive away. You have a nice campus for those who don't want to be right in the city as Babson is not but still have easy access to a major city as it is just outside of Boston
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 08:39 pm: Edit |
nah man PRs thing is wrong i was there for a weekend no1 watched CNN or and anything political it was chill. its just another possibility for both of us.
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 09:15 pm: Edit |
yup
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 02:40 pm: Edit |
are you looking at BU too?
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 03:27 pm: Edit |
yup
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 03:43 pm: Edit |
gwu or BU
| By Lenk58 (Lenk58) on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:12 am: Edit |
ALAN IS SIMPLY A NORTHEASTERN CHEERLEADER. NEU IS A TIER 3 SCHOOL WHICH HAS ALREADY GONE DEEP INTO IT'S WAITLIST IN ORDER TO FILL SPOTS. After hearing about some of the bad experiences at NEU on this thread I can see why it's a tier 3 school.
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