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I'm looking for a good midwest or east coast business school with a strong accounting program. on my list so far is Umich annarbor, and UIUC. with my safeties as rutgers and various SUNYs... how does TCNJ size up? and other suggestions?

By I1lmatics (I1lmatics) on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 09:52 pm: Edit

seems that u liek public schools so on the east coast: u of virginia
UNC
Maryland
Penn state
Indiana

i duno theres a whole bunch depends on ur stats

By Barrons (Barrons) on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 10:41 pm: Edit

Wisconsin. Typically in top 3 in CPA tests.

By Haithman (Haithman) on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 11:41 pm: Edit

Northwestern's Kellog is ranked #1 in the nation by Businessweek online... Yes, higher then Harvard Business School and Wharton.

By I1lmatics (I1lmatics) on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 12:08 pm: Edit

that is among graduate schools though haithman.. we are talking about undergrad

blwann if you want to major in accounting i highly recommend wake forest.. they have an extremely rigorous accounting program.. they ranked 1st in the nation three times in the last five years on the CPA exam

very beautiful campus, all incoming freshman recieve ibm thinkpad labtops

By Xiggi (Xiggi) on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 05:49 pm: Edit

Here is the definitive ranking for Accounting:

Top Undergraduate Programs - 2003
1 University of Texas
2 University of Illinois
3 Brigham Young University
4 University of So. California
5 University of Notre Dame
6 University of Michigan
7 Northern Illinois University
8 University of Pennsylvania
9 University of Wisconsin
10 The Ohio State University
11 Indiana University
12 Miami (Ohio) University
13 University of Virginia
14 University of Florida
15 Michigan State University
16 Texas A&M University
17 University of Georgia
18 Arizona State University
19 Wake Forest University*
20 College of William and Mary

* WFU five-year degree only, not a stand-alone bachelor’s degree.

Top Graduate Programs 2003
1 University of Texas
2 University of Illinois
3 Brigham Young University
4 University of So. California
5 University of Michigan
6 University of Notre Dame
7 University of North Carolina
8 The Ohio State University
9 Indiana University
10 Northern Illinois University
11 University of Pennsylvania*
12 University of Florida
13 Texas A&M University
14 Michigan State University
15 Arizona State University
15 University of Missouri
15 University of Georgia
18 University of Wisconsin
19 University of Virginia
20 Wake Forest University

Top Doctoral Program - 2003

1 University of Texas
2 University of Michigan
3 Stanford University
4 University of Chicago
5 University of Illinois

Public Accounting Report

By Becks777 (Becks777) on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 05:54 pm: Edit

University of Illinois is second best in business????

By Blwann45 (Blwann45) on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 05:56 pm: Edit

wow, thanks for the response. i definitely am in love with this site. thanks a lot, everyone

By Haithman (Haithman) on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 07:03 pm: Edit

Xiggi where did you get those rankings? UT #1 and Wharton #11!? I think not. Harvard, Wharton, MIT, NYU, Northwestern, just to name a few should be at the top...Unless I am confused so please englighten me

By I1lmatics (I1lmatics) on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 10:10 pm: Edit

you are confused its not overall business rankings its rankings specifically based on the accounting major

By Haithman (Haithman) on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 11:09 pm: Edit

Oh sorry, thanks for clearing that up.

By Xiggi (Xiggi) on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 01:41 am: Edit

Haithman~

I answered the original poster question: "I'm looking for a good midwest or east coast business school with a strong accounting program."

See the first line of my post: "Here is the definitive ranking for Accounting"

The source is shown in the link as the Public Accounting Report. They publish an annual report and the rankings are part of it. Most business schools have specialties and, accordingly, the rankings would be different depending the criteria. In this case, the OP asked about Accounting, hence the posting of this particular ranking. Wharton typically shows up as the best OVERALL school for business undergraduate. However, there are no perfect rankings as the criteria are extremely subjective. The best purpose of rankings is to evaluate a NUMBER of schools and then compare the individual schools according to your taste.

By Barrons (Barrons) on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 10:08 am: Edit

Harvard, Northwestern do NOT offer undergrad business majors.

By Blwann45 (Blwann45) on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 11:06 am: Edit

notes about the college of new jersey? how does it fare... (seeing if i can pay in-state)

By Blwann45 (Blwann45) on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 10:58 am: Edit

bump

By Anthony (Anthony) on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 05:51 am: Edit

Cornell

Also, the BusinessWeek and USNEWS business rankings are COMPLETELY irrelevent since those are ranking MBA programs, not undergrad programs. Half the top schools on those lists probably don't even have an undergrad business major.

By Barrons (Barrons) on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 09:38 am: Edit

US News has an undergraduate business ranking in the annual rankings.

By Blwann45 (Blwann45) on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 10:58 am: Edit

has anyone even heard of the college of new jersey? lol because i have gotten no responses on how it's accounting program is. or is it so horrid that no one dares even to speak about it? someone pleeeaaase at least give me some sort of response..

By Barrons (Barrons) on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 03:36 pm: Edit

Unless you are from NJ nobody has heard of it. Does it have AACSB approval??

By Massdad (Massdad) on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 04:02 pm: Edit

To expand on the comments of others:

- Please keep in mind that undergrad business majors and MBA degrees are entirely different things. One is an undergrad degree, the other is a professional degree. An undergrad business major will not even be any help in getting into an MBA program.

- An accounting degree will lead you to a nice middle class lifestyle (but watch out for Enron like situations ), but is NOT a fast track to corporate management, for instance. If you want to receive a CPA designation, plan to work as a "slave" at a major accounting firm for a few years to complete your certification. For many people, a better combination is an undergrad in a different field, and an MBA with an accounting major that is sufficient to pursue a CPA.

By Barrons (Barrons) on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 08:49 am: Edit

Massdad--one thing has changed in accounting--one needs to pursue the Master's in accounting to sit immediately for the CPA. Most schoools have added this to their programs.

http://www.bus.wisc.edu/accounting/fiveyear.htm#New%20Accounting

By Massdad (Massdad) on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 11:54 am: Edit

Barrons,

I just checked with my CPA colleague down the hall. He says certification is done by states, and that requirements differ. In most states, one can still get a CPA with just a bachelors degree, if that person has enough audit experience. In some states, you cannot sit immediately for the exam even with a Masters, he said - you still need at least a year of public accounting firm experience.