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OK here is a post for international students . Please tell me ur stats , the colleges u are attending, have applied to, will apply to . The amount of aid u are asking and any other thing that crosses ur mind . Hey if we dont help eachother who will ;)

By Collegehell (Collegehell) on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 03:31 pm: Edit

Just to get everyone Started I am from south Asia
Have taken the ACT in june expecting 30+ have a 1350 SAT score ( 690M and 660V) can probably hope to pay 5000$ so will look at
1. F&M
2.Davidson ( first choice prob apply ED)
3.Grinell
4. Drake
5.Knox
6. macalester
7. Vassar
8. Trinity
9. Duke

Oh and can someone please tell of any other colleges that also offer fin aid for international students ... enough so i have to pay only 5000$

By Arcadia (Arcadia) on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 04:03 pm: Edit

http://www.auap.com/classu.html

Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Williams, and Middlebury are the only schools I know of that are need blind for internationals.

By Kaysouljah (Kaysouljah) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 04:09 pm: Edit

Nice
I really like you .
I am fron Nigeria ,and all my friends want to go to an ivy[i too do].but we all can't afford to pay more than 10,000 dollars.
the thing: I have really been un-realiastic about fin- aid opp available to me .
Schools iwant to apply to

Harvard
Princeton
Howard [heard it's a black school]
temple u
Williams
colgate
Lafayette
Rider u

I still don't know how i will figure out which school to apply to ,which to go to ,how much i can pay and all of that.
I even guess i will drink a whole lot while filling out my applications.
All international students should really reply this post
It's so good

By Cara811888 (Cara811888) on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 07:19 am: Edit

Hey, hope this thread gets rolling. When I was applying there didn´t seem to be much info on this stuff out here. Anyway, collegehell, my financial situation was more or less like urs. Paying over 5k could be too much of a strain. So after a lot of researc, I came up with, arvard, Yale, middlebury, vassar, swarthmore, mt olyoke, bates, williams, connecticut,colgate, hamilton, u of chicago and wesleyan uni. Got rejected by a lot, waitlisted by a few and accepted at one!(colgate)with a financial aid package which I´m pretty satisfied with. All that pain and hard work was worth it in the end! My stats were 1410 SAT1 (710M 690V) and SAT II..oh great I can´t remember, I think it was 650/700/690, something like that.Not too great but enough I guess! I think Oberlin gives a lot of aid as well. ope tis helps!:-)

By Kaysouljah (Kaysouljah) on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 10:04 am: Edit

cara811888 You are so lucky , i am so happy for you.I just can't express how happy i am for you .Any international student who gets into a good american college with a good scholarship deserves a mighty hug.
I think i will apply early to colgate ,maybe will get good scholarship .
And for those extremly smart international students with good stats apply to wash univ in st lious .They have some pretty good merit scholarships .
And pls all internationals should keep this post rolling

By Chermiel (Chermiel) on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 06:19 pm: Edit

Being international and asking for aid is tough..i mean relaly tough. I took sat once, got 1470 (730v 740m) and Sat 2 8002c, 800chem and 780 writing. Got rejected by Pton, cornell ( i thought i may get in here), UC-berkeley and Uc-san diego even tho the last two i dint ask for aid. Rough..very rough. For some ppl luck holds and works out better than others. My most sincere advice is plz go ahead and apply ed, it helps, and u can decline it saying there isnt enough fin-aid. Bestof luck

By Exeguest2001 (Exeguest2001) on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 03:12 am: Edit

U got rejected by "UC San Diego" with a 1470 that's very hard to believe. TOUGH LUCK.

By Andymcgav (Andymcgav) on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 10:44 am: Edit

I thought that international students can't apply ED or EA.

By Ryuji (Ryuji) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 11:33 am: Edit

I would definitely agree with Chermiel.

I'm international student and was pretty much in the same situation as Chermiel..I got 1530 SAT I, SAT II( 800, 750, 730)with really good high school results(top 5%) and few, but focused ECs..rejected at MIT, Stanford, Caltech, Cornell(shocking), UC Berkeley, UC San Diego(extremely shocked!!!)...got in at UCLA, UIUC, UW-Madison.

But, I got into the James Scholar Honors Program at UIUC, which is where I'm goin this fall!

I believe essays, awards and special talents hold great importance and value in the eyes of adcoms, especially at top schools, where they have way too many high-achievers..For all internationals applying to US universities out there, good luck with the application! I would advise spending a great amt of time writing really interesting essays and join some notable competitions.

Go UIUC!

By Tralala (Tralala) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 05:27 pm: Edit

Hello
I went to a community college for 2 years, and I applied to the following schools for transfer. (major:business)GPA: 4.0 and very poor ECs.
USC (still no decision)
UC Berkeley (rejected)
UC Riverside (got in)
Purdue University (my application was kinda late, but no decision yet)
UCLA (I got in the Business econ major, and I'll probably go there next fall. Go Bruins!) But I did not get any aid, and I will probably need it for my senior year.

By Collegehell (Collegehell) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 05:12 am: Edit

Thank god this got rolling

Cara811888 : Does colgate require SAT 2's if you take the ACT ?

and generally what would be a good score for the ivy league

By Dantes (Dantes) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 02:43 pm: Edit

This is the first time i am posting on this site. I find that the advice given on this site is especially useful to confused international students such as myself. Hopefully you folk can give me some advice regarding my problem. Thanx in advance.

I am from singapore. Went to a local poly after my GCSE "o" Levels. Graduated with a poly Diploma in Electronics, Computer and Telecommunications. Found that i was no longer interested in working in this field so decided to get a degree in "Banking and Finance or International Finance". Did my SATs.

SAT 1 : 750(Maths)/ 750(Verbal)

Decided to do an out of campus Associate Degree in my own country before transferring to the US to finish my Bachelor's Degree. Currently in my second year of the Associate Degree program offered by the Indiana Uni. Expected to get above average GPA. I would probably need financial aid as the most i can afford is 10,000 US dollars. The list of colleges i would like to enter are :

University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
New York University (Stern)
University of California-Berkeley (Haas)
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
Massachusetts Inst. of Technology (Sloan)
University of Texas-Austin (McCombs)
U. of North Carolina-Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler)
Indiana University-Bloomington (Kelley)
University of Virginia (McIntire)
Carnegie Mellon University (PA) and
Boston College (Carroll)

do i need to do the SAT IIs ?? and any advice given is greatly appreciated.

By Student9 (Student9) on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 09:32 pm: Edit

What about international students that were educated in the U.S.A for high school?

Do they have higher chances of acceptance than other int. students that were educated elsewhere?

I'm Canadian, I moved to the U.S. for high school.
I'm not a U.S. citizen or a permanent resident yet, so I am classified as international.

Universities can trust that I was well educated in the U.S. so am I at an advantage?

Any opinions or ideas would be appreciated.

By Ceci (Ceci) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 06:28 am: Edit

Dantes: You're almost my carbon copy (is that a good thing or not?)

University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
New York University (Stern)
University of California-Berkeley (Haas)
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
Massachusetts Inst. of Technology (Sloan)
- on my list also

$$$$ I can afford = yours

I'm from HK though... would you like to keep contact... so we can update each other on info and stuff? since we're both going for practically the same thing... hehe, I prefer making friends rather than enemies with my competitors

By the way I'm going to Singapore on Wednesday

By Heartfang (Heartfang) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:14 am: Edit

I am from Malaysia!!

I have a 780 on Maths and 730 on Verbal.

Doing my A Levels now, my forecast grades are 5 A's in
F. Maths
Maths
Chem
Physics
Thinking Skills

I absolutely LOVE Washington U, but it is not much in terms of prestige, my parents are keen on ivies.

I can only afford $10000

Anyone else from South East Asia?

By Dantes (Dantes) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 12:49 pm: Edit

Ceci , actually i must say that i am glad u are in an almost identical situation as me. I thought i was in a unique situation but at least now, i have somebody with whom i can co-ordinate my research process after all "Two heads are better than one", rite !! ;->

By the way, did u also do a associate deg. program ?? maybe u could drop me a mail if u dun wanna reveal ur stats here. my e-mail address is vejovis@yahoo.com

anybody here know of other schools which give lots of financial aid to internationals ??

By Idonotcare (Idonotcare) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 05:17 pm: Edit

Define "lots of financial aid to internationals". All the college sites I visited clearly says scholarship for international students are very limited.

By Cleopatra (Cleopatra) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 12:33 pm: Edit

Hey pals,glad to c there r so many int'l applicants.Collegehell was really thoughtful to put up this thread
I'm from China(anyone else here?)
I'm gonna take GRE instead of SATs for they r not avalaible in the mainland of China.
My dream schools r:
Princeton
Stanford
MHC
Colgate
Middlebury
Hamilton
UPenn

I'll try to get full aid.

Hope to c more int'l students here
keep in touch~

By Idonotcare (Idonotcare) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 01:10 pm: Edit

WTF? I thought GRE are for graduate school!

By Ashleycrombie (Ashleycrombie) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 01:42 pm: Edit

Hi; I'm international too =)
Originally from South East Asia (Singapore), where I studied in this mad hard local school.
Now in Mainland China, in an international school.

My SAT I score was a 1500 combined (740V,760M), and I haven't taken my SAT IIs yet.
Junior schedule had 5 APs and 1 IB-HL (APs: English Language, Biology, MacroEcon, MicroEcon, Psychology; IB-HL: Mandarin)
Senior schedule will have 5 APs =p

Uh...what else..I play on the varsity basketball and softball teams, do Model United Nations and Habitat for Humanity (we built homes in Thailand) and some other stuff.

I interned at 2 companies for the past 2 summers, and I have pretty good summer programs to back me up.

I'm looking at:
Stanford ED
Northwestern
UC-Berkeley/ UCLA
NYU Sterns
U of Washington
U of Southern California

That's about it =)

By Collegehell (Collegehell) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 05:56 pm: Edit

Ashleycrombie : stanford has shifted to early action and i belive u cant apply early in u are asking for financial aid

By Canadian_Idol (Canadian_Idol) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 08:32 pm: Edit

I'm applying from Canada so I guess I'm an international too...But I came here from Korea 5 years ago.

- 1600 SAT, expecting 700-800 SAT IIs to be taken in October
- 4.0 unweighted gpa, school doesnt rank.
- 6/7 predicted for IB courses (I'm in full IB diploma program - taking 5 higher level courses)
- a lot of ECs, pres of school newspaper, pres of a club helping a kids organization, IB council, IB director. volunteering at hospital
- independent reserach about cystic fibrosis at a Children's Hospital lab
- captain of soccer team
- silver medal at city wide science fair
- several awards for national mathematics competitions.

Looking at:
harvard, yale, pton, stanford, cornell.

By Tuannguyen (Tuannguyen) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 08:38 pm: Edit

Canadian Idol,

How are you taking 5 HL courses? I thought IB only allowed a max of 4.

I know people who took 6 HL courses, but they couldn't get the IB diploma... I didn't really ask why they didn't get it, but i'm assuming they pissed off the organization by taking more than 4... Are you sure your diploma's in the bag?

By Ashleycrombie (Ashleycrombie) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 02:04 am: Edit

Hey Collegehell, yeah it's EA for Stanford now, but non-binding provided they admit you. I don't need financial aid, so it's not much of a problem in that sense.

By Canadian_Idol (Canadian_Idol) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 03:40 am: Edit

I'm pretty sure it's okay - I'll ask the coordinator though to make sure.

I don't know how or why those people did not get the diploma by taking 6 HL courses. Maybe they didn't pass one of the exams. I think if you get 3 or lower in ONE course you fail the entire thing.

By Londoner (Londoner) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 06:32 am: Edit

Anyone here from Europe/UK?

By Tuannguyen (Tuannguyen) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 06:48 pm: Edit

Canadian Idol,

These people are REALLY smart people. I asked them what score they have and they said they had 7s and the lowest score was this girl with a 6 (her lowest and only "low" score, so i'm imgaining that she got 7s on the rest). Still good scores, both score equivalent to an AP 5 (for those who don't know what we're talking about). Anyways, yeah, i'm just saying, make sure you have the IB diploma in the bag. I should've asked them why they didn't get the diploma though.

By Canadian_Idol (Canadian_Idol) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 08:38 pm: Edit

That IS weird. I certainly will check that, and thanks for the info.

By Lostgirl (Lostgirl) on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 02:48 pm: Edit

Hey, i am from Nepal. I just want to know if this formula is going to work:

SAT1: (740V, 690M)
SAT2: havent taken yet
TOEFL:283
top 10% ranking
National Distinction Award(Academics, class 10)
LOTS OF ECs AND VOLUNTEER JOBS
*** Since class 4, i ahve taken part in numerous interschol,regoinal, and national level extempore and debate compititions and have secured 1st position in ALL of them.***

is it good enough for MIT, CALTECH, PRINCETON etc etc or some other ives?? cannot afford more than $6000.

somebody please reply.. everybody seems busy posting questions only!!

By Collegehell (Collegehell) on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 04:33 pm: Edit

Lostgirl : I am no expert here but its harder for us internationals I would say if u get 780+ SAT 2's ud have apretty decent shot specially with national honour but from what i have heard you can get left out just for the sake of diversity ( someone from nepal with better grades maybe)

DEFINATELY a chance but just to be on the safe side look for a safety school

By Heartfang (Heartfang) on Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 02:27 am: Edit

Lostgirl; advising you not to apply to CALTECH.very little fin aid, and very competitive. (Check out their median SAT scores)

By Ria (Ria) on Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 03:33 am: Edit

Heh... it's fun to read other posts...

I'm from Sweden, going to be a junior this fall and already planing my future. I'm not really sure I want to go to the US and I'm not sure I can get in but I'd like to try. I haven't taken the SAT's or the TOEFL but I have a 3.95 GPA or so... schools I'm interested in are MIT, Yale, Amherst (first choice) and UPenn.

By Ivyrules (Ivyrules) on Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 08:00 am: Edit

most of u guys' stats are so good!!! i mean, wtf!
i'm an student from japan and i only got M:750 V:400 TOEFL:253 but i managed to get into brown, johns hopkins and the University of pennsylvania.
i had a couple of extracurriculars but i didn't have any awards. i didn't list any volunteer/ work experiences.i am not a legacy.

however, I had EXCELLENT grades in the most rigorous course available and ranked in the top 1%. i got good recs from teachers.
my guess is, u guys are over-estimating the SATs.
yes, the admissions people will look at your scores, but it is much more important to do well in your school work.

btw, i'm not going to attend any of the colleges in the us. i am going to attend the university of tokyo (japan).

By Lostgirl (Lostgirl) on Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 08:09 am: Edit

thanks collegehell and Heartfang. now i can see a little where i stand.

should i retake sat1?

please do advise me some safety colleges. i want to go for Computer engineering. so how wise it would be to apply to liberal arts college?
pls respond, thanks in advance.

By Cleopatra (Cleopatra) on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 12:12 pm: Edit

Idonotcare,yup,GRE IS for graduate schools,but most undergraduate schools say u may take it in place of SATs if they r not available in where u live.

Lostgirl.SAT is not everything,so don't care too much about it.Personally,I think urs is OK.Anyway,it's still up to uWish you good luck.

By Varr_Rdz00 (Varr_Rdz00) on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 11:28 pm: Edit

Hey everyone I am wondering whether or not I would be an eligible candidate forsome of these university although im gonna be on the 10th grade next year
my name is Varenka Rdz, I was born in Mexico and currently living in Mexico still but I have lived in about 4 places in Mexico and also in Canada so my english is pretty good.

I have a gpa of 3.8 , in class rank I知 2nd out of 50 students,
No Ap classes available in my school.
I speak Spanish as my first language English as my second , and I speak French and German fluently
some of my extra curricular activities ive been working on are:
*Debate team captain English/Spanish
*student council
*social participation such as: ECYD, Angle for a day
*President of ANCLA( association of abstinence to smoking drinking and drugs) and conferences at my community
*Red Cross , courses and volunteer work
*soccer , basket ball player at school for 7 years now
* tennis player for 10 years and regional winner for 2 years.
*Tutoring
*helped around on the school staff once a week.
*group of the international show case (investigation of cultures and languages)
* I shadowed a dentist last summer helped around
*I have seen some operations and oral surgeries.

I know these ain稚 impressive but I知 really working hard to find something else to add to the list
I know i also need real good sat scores , which I will try my hardest to obtain.

IM also thinking of applying to these other Univ.: and look for some who have the pre-dentistry mayor
but heres some that i have on mind:

Howard Univ (probably not since i heard its an all black college)
Marquette Univ
Columbia univ
Rochester univ
Univ. of Michigan
Boston Univ.
Tufts Univ.
Michigan Univ
Columbia Univ

and I知 still looking for other but I知 still keeping my options open
so I just want to as you guys for some advice am i doing alright?????
do you all think I can really get into one of those Univ.?
what else can I do?
I know its too soon to think about college but hey when you plan your life you are most likely to succeed.

oh um the high school I知 attending right now is a roman catholic all girl private highschool , and I知 not going to ask for financial aid I think that makes things easier

By Cleopatra (Cleopatra) on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 06:00 am: Edit

My opinion is that u may have a try,try ur best.No one can be sure of the future,rite?So what can we do is just try our best.Once u try,u'll never regret
wish u good luck;)

By Heartfang (Heartfang) on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 09:38 am: Edit

Ivyrules, did you apply for financial aid? Sorry, but why did you choose u of tokyo over the others?

By Ivyrules (Ivyrules) on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 10:03 am: Edit

heartfang: yes, i did apply for financial aid but i didn't get anything. And that's why i'm not going to the us universities.... i mean who can afford those schools with no financial aid!!!!
btw, i don't think that applying to schools requesting finaid would heart your chances for getting accepted (i don't know for sure though...)the difficult part is to actually get aid!
anyway, i wish you good luck

By Becks777 (Becks777) on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 10:40 pm: Edit

Hey!!!
Wat do u think of my chances...international student from india ..i complted my 9th and 10th grades in india and then moved to st louis
man.. i would do anything to get into UCLA...( do u get any financial aid in ucla?)
here r my stats
SAT1-1330-570v-760m
Still have to take my SATIIs
10th grade gpa in my indian school- 4 unweighted
11th grade gpa- 4.0-weighted( by the way does anyone know how my two wtd and unwtd GPA is goin to be combined)
play varsity soccer and tennis..member of the international and mu alpha thetha club

By Sirmoreau (Sirmoreau) on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 10:43 pm: Edit

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By Anorchard (Anorchard) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 05:28 am: Edit

hey all,

i'm singaporean as well. going to umich this fall.

here's my stats:

SAT: 800m/700v, didn't take SAT II cause i was busy with other stuff. I only applied to Umich in fact, but i was pretty sure i would get in. i wonder if i had been more ambitious, what would have happened.

for those taking brit O and A levels: know it's your O levels which count more, A levels are for advanced credits:

for me: O levels: 6 As, 3Bs; A levels: ABBC, but got a A1 for my GP: that helped i believe...

as for ECs: i was national youth for a sport, was in a few committees, average community service and a few other things...

recs: not bad i guess, could be better if i was a better student...

anyway, just something you guys can work with

By Collegehell (Collegehell) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 11:17 am: Edit

ok ppl i have a question

The thing is since most of us a re from diffrent countries and are apppearing for diffrent exams ( u prob knew that ) well anyways i heard somewhere that since we are international a "LOT" of importance is placed on ur SATS and OTher external exams ( o - a levels , IB etc ) thats what i heard just wanted to ask you if anyone knows

By Researching (Researching) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 11:27 am: Edit

Hiya,

Im from Pakistan.
My stats...O Levz 8 As and 1 B...

V 690 M 720

SAT 2 Math 2C 800, Physics 800

Gave 5 APs this year and 1 A Level
will give more of em next year...not much on the EC front

I'll be applying to Cornell, Princeton, (Big reaches) UMichigan, UIUC, and to Canada as well at U of T and WaterLoo. Maybe too Duke and UCLA as well.

By Anorchard (Anorchard) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 04:41 pm: Edit

yes of course that's true, but you still do have to have a decent amount of ECs as well, unless you're absolutely brilliant, like the next asimov or something.

researching: you do have competitive stats for your SATs and your grades, but like i said above, you've got to have some ECs at least, to show that you're not just mugging for exams but you are a well-rounded individual.

By Zapo1j5p8l1 (Zapo1j5p8l1) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 07:48 pm: Edit

I guess in the spirit of keeping this thread going I'll post my stats again here, although it's already in way too many other forums.

3.9u, 4.5w
SAT I v 780 m 800
SAT II taking in October
AP: not here yet
4 or 5 of 550

Mostly academic EC's, except chess + private piano lessons
Some, not much, volunteer
Math/science awards

Schools I plan on applying to for engineering:
Cornell (ED)
Carnegie Mellon

By Heartfang (Heartfang) on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 05:08 am: Edit

anyone applying to princeton?

By Dkm (Dkm) on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:28 pm: Edit

i am studying in switzerland..
sat 1200...hoping for atleat 1300
IB 6 and 7s
lots of sports
150 cas

By Foreigngirl (Foreigngirl) on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 09:06 am: Edit

anybody from Germany around here?